< Back to Washington Unemployment

Natasha Petrov

Washington ESD unemployment increase between 1929 and 1933 - historical research help

I'm doing research on unemployment trends and need to find data on how much unemployment increased in Washington state between 1929 and 1933. Does anyone know if Washington ESD keeps historical records going back that far? I've been trying to call their main line but can't get through to anyone who can help with historical data requests. Any ideas where I could find this information?

Washington ESD probably doesn't have records going back to 1929 since the department wasn't even established until later. You might want to try the Washington State Archives or the University of Washington library for historical unemployment data from the Great Depression era.

0 coins

Good point about Washington ESD not existing back then. I'll check the state archives website and see what they have available.

0 coins

The Bureau of Labor Statistics might have state-level data from that period too, even if Washington ESD didn't exist yet.

0 coins

why do you need info that old? are you writing a paper or something? seems like a weird thing to research unless its for school

0 coins

Yeah it's for a history project I'm working on about the Great Depression's impact on Washington state specifically.

0 coins

If you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD by phone for any research requests, I recently discovered this service called Claimyr that helps people get through to ESD agents. Check out claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Might be worth trying if you need to speak with someone at ESD about accessing any records they might have.

0 coins

Interesting, I'll look into that. Though I'm not sure if regular ESD agents would know about historical records from the 1930s anyway.

0 coins

That Claimyr thing sounds too good to be true. How does it actually work?

0 coins

It basically automates the calling process so you don't have to sit on hold forever. I used it when I needed to check on my claim status and it actually worked.

0 coins

From what I remember studying this, unemployment went from like 3% to 25% nationally during those years. Not sure about Washington specifically but it was probably similar or worse since we had so much logging and agriculture that got hit hard.

0 coins

That's helpful context! The national numbers I've seen are similar. Washington's resource-based economy probably did get hit particularly hard.

0 coins

Yeah the logging industry basically collapsed during the Depression. My great-grandfather lost his job at a mill in 1931 and never found steady work again until WWII.

0 coins

Wait, are you trying to compare historical unemployment to what's happening now with Washington ESD? Because the systems are totally different. Back then there was no unemployment insurance like we have today.

0 coins

No, this is purely historical research. I know the unemployment insurance system didn't exist back then - that's actually part of what I'm researching.

0 coins

Good point though. The Social Security Act that created unemployment insurance wasn't passed until 1935, so people in the early 1930s had no safety net at all.

0 coins

The Washington State Library might have old newspapers from that time period that would have unemployment statistics. I did similar research for a project and found a lot of good data in archived newspaper articles.

0 coins

That's a great idea! Newspaper archives would probably have regular reporting on unemployment during the Depression.

0 coins

this is making me realize how bad things were back then. at least now when people lose their jobs they can file for UI benefits through Washington ESD, even if the system is frustrating

0 coins

Exactly. My great-grandfather's generation had nothing. No unemployment benefits, no job search assistance, no weekly claims to file. Just complete desperation.

0 coins

Makes me grateful for Washington ESD even when I'm frustrated with adjudication delays and all that.

0 coins

Try contacting the Washington State Department of Commerce too. They might have historical economic data that includes unemployment figures from the 1930s.

0 coins

I hadn't thought of Commerce. I'll add them to my list of places to check.

0 coins

Another resource might be the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco. They sometimes have regional economic data going back decades, including unemployment statistics for Pacific Northwest states.

0 coins

Great suggestion! I'll check their website for historical data archives.

0 coins

The St. Louis Fed's FRED database is really good for historical economic data too.

0 coins

Just a heads up - if you do end up needing to call Washington ESD for any reason during your research, that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier has been really helpful for getting through their phone system. Sometimes they have research staff or historical records people who are easier to reach than the regular claims agents.

0 coins

How much does that service cost though? Seems like it might be expensive.

0 coins

I found it worth it when I was struggling to reach ESD about my claim issues. The time saved was definitely valuable to me.

0 coins

Have you tried looking at Census Bureau data? They've been tracking unemployment statistics for a long time and might have state-level breakdowns from the 1930s.

0 coins

I'll check their historical statistics section. That's probably one of the most reliable sources for official government data from that era.

0 coins

My family has some old documents from the Depression era including some government surveys about employment. Not sure if they'd be useful for your research but it's interesting to see the personal side of those statistics.

0 coins

That sounds fascinating! Personal accounts really help bring the statistics to life.

0 coins

Those kinds of primary sources are incredibly valuable for historical research. You should consider donating copies to the state archives.

0 coins

this thread is making me curious about unemployment history too. crazy to think about how different things were before Washington ESD and all the modern unemployment systems existed

0 coins

It really puts things in perspective. Even with all the problems people have with ESD adjudication and weekly claims, at least the system exists.

0 coins

Check out the National Archives too. They might have Department of Labor records from the 1930s that include state-specific unemployment data.

0 coins

Good idea! I'll search their catalog for Depression-era labor statistics.

0 coins

Academic databases like JSTOR might have scholarly articles about unemployment during the Great Depression that include Washington state data. Your library might have access.

0 coins

I do have access through my school. I'll search for academic papers on Pacific Northwest unemployment during the Depression.

0 coins

The Works Progress Administration kept detailed records of unemployment and employment programs. Those records are probably archived somewhere and might have Washington state information.

0 coins

That's a great lead! WPA records would definitely have relevant data about unemployment and relief efforts.

0 coins

The National Archives should have WPA records. That's probably one of your best bets for detailed state-level data.

0 coins

good luck with your research! sounds like you have lots of good leads now. hope you find what you need

0 coins

Thanks! This thread has been really helpful. I have a much better idea of where to look now.

0 coins

One more thing - if you do need to contact Washington ESD during your research and run into their usual phone issues, definitely try Claimyr. Even for non-standard requests like historical data, sometimes you just need to get through to a human who can point you in the right direction.

0 coins

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for all the suggestions everyone - this has been incredibly helpful!

0 coins

Post an update when you find the data! I'm curious what the actual numbers were for Washington state during those years.

0 coins

Will do! I'll try to remember to come back and share what I find once I finish the research.

0 coins

Yeah, I'd be interested to see how Washington compared to the national averages during the Depression.

0 coins

This has been a really interesting discussion. Makes you appreciate how much the unemployment system has evolved since then, even with all its current problems.

0 coins

Absolutely. For all the frustration with Washington ESD adjudication delays and phone issues, at least we have a system at all.

0 coins

True. My complaints about weekly claims suddenly seem pretty minor in comparison to what people dealt with in the 1930s.

0 coins

Washington Unemployment AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,087 users helped today