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Washington ESD unemployment benefits when job opportunities don't exist in my area - which of the following best describes locational unemployment?

I'm trying to understand my unemployment situation better and came across this term 'locational unemployment' in some research. I live in a rural area of Washington where there just aren't many job opportunities in my field (accounting). Most positions are in Seattle or Spokane, but I can't relocate due to family obligations. When I file my weekly claims with Washington ESD, I'm required to do job searches but there's literally nothing available locally. Which of the following best describes locational unemployment? Is this something that affects my eligibility for benefits? I've been approved but I'm worried about the job search requirements.

Locational unemployment refers to unemployment that occurs when there's a mismatch between where jobs are available and where workers are located. In your case, the accounting jobs exist in urban areas but you're in a rural location. This is a recognized economic concept and shouldn't affect your Washington ESD benefits as long as you're meeting the job search requirements within reasonable commuting distance.

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Thank you! That makes sense. What's considered 'reasonable commuting distance' for Washington ESD purposes?

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Generally it's about 50 miles or 1.5 hours of travel time, but Washington ESD considers individual circumstances like transportation availability and family obligations.

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I had this exact problem last year! Rural eastern Washington here and my field is IT. Most jobs were in the Seattle metro area. What helped me was expanding my search to include remote work opportunities and related fields. Washington ESD accepted these as valid job search activities.

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Did you have to document the remote job applications differently on your weekly claims?

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Nope, just logged them normally in the job search section. As long as you're genuinely looking for work that you're qualified for, it counts.

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Is this legit? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks about my job search area requirements.

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Yeah it's real. I was skeptical too but it actually worked. They handle the calling process and connect you when an agent is available.

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Interesting, might have to try this. The regular Washington ESD phone lines are impossible.

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locational unemployment is definitely a thing but dont let washington esd use it as an excuse to deny benefits. i know people who got disqualified because they said there were jobs available even if they were 2 hours away. document everything!

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That's scary. I've been documenting all my job searches but most are online applications for remote positions.

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Remote applications are perfectly valid. Washington ESD can't expect you to commute unreasonable distances, especially in rural areas.

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This is actually one of the definitions you might see on an economics test: Locational unemployment occurs when there are job opportunities in the economy but they're not in the same geographic area as the unemployed workers. It's also called geographical unemployment sometimes.

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Ah that's probably why it came up in my research! I was looking at different unemployment types to better understand my situation.

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Exactly. There's also structural unemployment (skills mismatch), cyclical unemployment (economic downturns), and frictional unemployment (normal job transitions).

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Been dealing with Washington ESD for 6 months now and they definitely understand rural employment challenges. When I explained my situation during adjudication, they were reasonable about the job search requirements. Just be honest about your limitations and document your efforts.

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How did you get through to explain your situation? I can never reach anyone at Washington ESD.

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That's the hard part. I actually used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Worked better than calling directly.

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Same here, regular calling was hopeless but that service got me through to an adjudicator pretty quickly.

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The job search requirement for Washington ESD is 3 job contacts per week minimum. For rural areas, they usually accept a mix of local applications, remote work applications, and applications within reasonable commuting distance. Don't stress too much about the locational aspect - focus on showing genuine effort to find work.

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That's reassuring. I've been doing 4-5 applications per week just to be safe, mixing local businesses and remote opportunities.

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Perfect approach. Keep records of company names, positions, dates, and method of application. Washington ESD rarely questions it if you're exceeding the minimum.

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ugh this whole system is so frustrating. why should we have to justify living in rural areas?? jobs should be available everywhere not just in big cities. washington esd acts like we chose to be unemployed

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I feel you! It's not our fault the economy is concentrated in urban areas.

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I understand the frustration, but Washington ESD is actually pretty accommodating for rural claimants compared to some states.

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For what it's worth, remote work has made locational unemployment less of an issue in many fields. Accounting especially has tons of remote opportunities now. Check out FlexJobs, Remote.co, and We Work Remotely in addition to the usual job boards.

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Thanks for the suggestions! I've been mainly using Indeed and LinkedIn but will check those out.

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Also don't forget to log those applications in your Washington ESD weekly claim. Remote jobs count just as much as local ones.

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Just wanted to add that if you're having trouble with your job search requirements or need clarification on what counts, that Claimyr thing really does work. I was able to speak with a Washington ESD representative who explained exactly what they needed for my rural situation. Worth checking out if you're stuck.

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How much does it cost though? I'm already tight on money being unemployed.

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I can't remember the exact amount but it was reasonable considering how much time it saved me. Plus if you get benefits sorted out faster, it pays for itself.

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I think I'm in a similar situation but with healthcare jobs. Rural hospitals are cutting staff but all the openings are in Tacoma/Seattle area. Been approved for benefits for 2 months now and no issues with job search documentation so far.

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Good to hear! Are you applying to any remote healthcare positions or just local/regional ones?

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Mostly local and some telehealth companies. Remote healthcare is growing but still limited compared to other fields.

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Quick question - does anyone know if Washington ESD considers gig work as a job search activity? Like applying to be an Uber driver or DoorDash? Asking for a friend who's in a really rural area with limited options.

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Gig work applications can count, but your friend needs to be careful about actually doing gig work while claiming benefits. Income needs to be reported on weekly claims.

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Yeah that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying!

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From an economics perspective, locational unemployment is one of several types of unemployment that exist even in a healthy economy. It's not a personal failing - it's a structural issue where labor markets aren't perfectly mobile. Washington ESD understands this concept even if they don't always use the academic terminology.

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That's helpful context. I was worried they might see it as me being picky about jobs rather than a legitimate geographic constraint.

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Exactly. As long as you're showing genuine effort within your reasonable constraints, you should be fine.

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might be worth looking into retraining programs through WorkSource Washington if your field really has limited local opportunities. sometimes washington esd approves training that can help with locational unemployment issues

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That's an interesting idea. I hadn't thought about retraining. Would that affect my current benefits?

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Washington ESD has approved training programs that allow you to continue receiving benefits while learning new skills. Check with WorkSource about what's available in your area.

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Been following this thread and wanted to share that I successfully explained my locational constraints to Washington ESD during a phone interview. Key was being specific about why relocation wasn't possible (elderly parent care in my case) and showing I was maximizing job search within my constraints.

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How did you get the phone interview scheduled? I've been trying to reach them for weeks.

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They called me for adjudication, but I know others have had success with that Claimyr service for reaching agents proactively.

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Just to close the loop on the original question - locational unemployment is when workers and jobs are in different geographic areas. It's a recognized economic phenomenon and Washington ESD won't penalize you for it as long as you're meeting job search requirements within reason. Keep documenting your efforts and you should be fine.

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Perfect summary, thank you! This thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding both the concept and how it applies to my Washington ESD benefits.

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Agreed! Lots of good practical advice here along with the economic theory.

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