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Emma Davis

Washington ESD question - which type of unemployment is characterized by a worker looking for a job?

Hey everyone, I'm trying to understand the different types of unemployment for a class assignment and I'm confused about which category applies when someone is actively job searching. My Washington ESD claim got approved last month and I've been doing my weekly claims, but I want to make sure I understand this correctly. Is the type where you're actively looking for work called frictional unemployment? Or is it something else? I know Washington ESD requires job search activities but I'm not sure how that relates to the economic definitions.

Malik Johnson

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Yes, you're thinking of frictional unemployment! That's when people are temporarily between jobs and actively searching. It's considered normal in a healthy economy since people change jobs for better opportunities.

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Emma Davis

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Thanks! So when I'm doing my job search log for Washington ESD, I'm technically in frictional unemployment?

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Malik Johnson

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Exactly right. The job search requirements from Washington ESD are there to help reduce the time you spend in frictional unemployment.

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there's also structural unemployment when your skills don't match available jobs, and cyclical unemployment during recessions. but yeah frictional is the most common one

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Ravi Sharma

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I think I might be dealing with structural unemployment actually. My industry downsized and most jobs now require different certifications than what I have.

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NebulaNomad

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Washington ESD has retraining programs through WorkSource that can help with structural unemployment situations. You should look into their professional development resources.

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Freya Thomsen

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Omar Fawaz

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How does that work exactly? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks about my job search requirements.

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Freya Thomsen

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It basically calls for you and waits in the queue, then connects you when an agent picks up. Saved me hours of trying to get through.

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Chloe Martin

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Sounds too good to be true but I might try it. The Washington ESD phone system is impossible.

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NebulaNomad

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For your assignment, remember that frictional unemployment includes people who voluntarily left their jobs to find better ones, recent graduates entering the job market, and people re-entering after time off. It's different from being laid off due to economic conditions.

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Emma Davis

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That's really helpful! So even though I was laid off, since I'm actively job searching now I'm in frictional unemployment?

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NebulaNomad

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Well, if you were laid off due to company downsizing or economic reasons, that would initially be cyclical unemployment. But once you start actively searching, the lines can blur.

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Ravi Sharma

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I'm so confused about all these categories. I got disqualified from my Washington ESD claim and I'm appealing it but still looking for work. What type of unemployment am I??

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Malik Johnson

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The type of unemployment doesn't change based on your claim status. If you're actively job searching, you're still experiencing frictional unemployment even if Washington ESD disqualified you.

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Ravi Sharma

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Ok that makes sense. I was overthinking it. Thanks for clarifying!

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Omar Fawaz

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My economics prof said frictional unemployment is actually good for the economy because it means people have choices and mobility. But try telling that to Washington ESD when you're doing your weekly claims lol

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yeah the theory is nice but in practice it sucks when you're the one looking for work

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Malik Johnson

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True, but some frictional unemployment shows the labor market is healthy and people aren't just stuck in bad jobs out of desperation.

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Chloe Martin

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Wait, what about seasonal unemployment? Like construction workers in winter? Is that frictional too?

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NebulaNomad

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Seasonal unemployment is its own category, though it can overlap with frictional if the worker is searching for off-season work instead of waiting for their seasonal job to return.

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Chloe Martin

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Got it. Washington ESD has that standby status for seasonal workers right?

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NebulaNomad

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Yes, standby is when you expect to return to the same employer. That's different from actively job searching.

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Freya Thomsen

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Just wanted to add that when I used Claimyr to reach Washington ESD, the agent I spoke with was really helpful in explaining my claim status and what I needed to do for my job search requirements. Much better than trying to figure it out from the website.

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Emma Davis

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I might need to try that. I have questions about my weekly claims that I can't find answers to online.

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Omar Fawaz

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Same here. The Washington ESD website is so confusing sometimes.

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Malik Johnson

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For your assignment, you might also want to mention that frictional unemployment includes search time and information gathering. Even in today's digital age, it takes time to find job openings, apply, interview, and negotiate offers.

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Emma Davis

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That's a good point! The job search process itself creates the unemployment period.

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Ravi Sharma

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Makes sense why Washington ESD requires proof of job search activities. They want to minimize that search time.

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cyclical unemployment is when the whole economy is down and there just aren't enough jobs. frictional is when there are jobs but it takes time to match workers with the right positions

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Emma Davis

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So during the pandemic, that was mostly cyclical unemployment because businesses were closed?

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exactly! that's why there were special pandemic unemployment programs. regular frictional unemployment programs wouldn't have been enough

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NebulaNomad

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One more thing to consider - geographic mobility affects frictional unemployment too. If you're willing to relocate for work, your frictional unemployment period might be shorter because you have more job opportunities available.

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Chloe Martin

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True, but moving is expensive when you're already on unemployment benefits.

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NebulaNomad

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Absolutely. That's one reason frictional unemployment can last longer for lower-income workers - they have fewer resources to expand their job search geographically.

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Ravi Sharma

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This thread has been super helpful! I feel like I understand the different types of unemployment much better now. Thanks everyone!

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Emma Davis

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Same! This is exactly what I needed for my assignment.

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Malik Johnson

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Glad we could help! Good luck with your class and your job search.

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Omar Fawaz

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Just to summarize for anyone else reading this - frictional unemployment is when you're between jobs and actively searching. It's normal and expected in a healthy economy. The other main types are structural (skills mismatch) and cyclical (economic downturn).

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good summary! those are the three main categories most economics classes cover

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Chloe Martin

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Thanks for the recap. I was getting lost in all the details.

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Freya Thomsen

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One last mention - if anyone needs to actually talk to Washington ESD about their specific situation, whether it's about job search requirements or claim issues, Claimyr really does work. I was skeptical at first but it saved me so much time and frustration trying to get through their phone system.

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Ravi Sharma

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I'm definitely going to check that out. I've been trying to reach them about my appeal for weeks.

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Omar Fawaz

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Yeah, I might try it too. The regular phone number is basically useless.

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Emma Davis

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Thanks again everyone! This has been really educational. I think I have enough information now to write a good paper on unemployment types.

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Malik Johnson

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You're welcome! Make sure to mention that in practice, these categories can overlap and people might experience multiple types throughout their unemployment period.

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NebulaNomad

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Good point. Real-world unemployment situations are often more complex than the textbook definitions suggest.

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