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Melody Miles

Washington ESD unemployment after being fired - am I eligible?

I got fired from my job at a retail store last week for being late too many times. My manager said it was the final straw after three written warnings. I know I messed up but I really need income while I look for another job. Can I still file for unemployment with Washington ESD if I was terminated? I'm worried they'll automatically deny me since I was fired for cause. Has anyone been in this situation before?

It depends on the specific reason for termination. Washington ESD looks at whether it was 'misconduct' or just poor performance. Being late repeatedly might be considered misconduct, but you should still file and let them make the determination. The worst they can do is deny you, but sometimes they approve claims even when you think they won't.

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That's encouraging. I wasn't stealing or anything really bad, just had transportation issues that made me late. Should I mention that when I file?

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Yes, definitely explain your circumstances. Washington ESD considers the full picture, not just what your employer reports.

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I was fired for attendance issues too and still got approved! It took about 3 weeks for adjudication but they said my employer didn't prove it was willful misconduct. File ASAP because even if you get denied initially, you can appeal and it's better to get the process started.

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Really? That gives me hope. Did you have to provide any documentation during the adjudication process?

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They asked for my side of the story and any evidence I had about my attendance issues. I explained my car problems and showed repair receipts.

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The key thing Washington ESD looks for is whether your actions were 'willful misconduct.' Simple tardiness without malicious intent often doesn't qualify as misconduct, especially if you had legitimate reasons. File your claim immediately - you can always be denied and appeal, but you can't get benefits for weeks you don't claim.

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Thank you, that makes sense. I definitely wasn't trying to cause problems on purpose.

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This is exactly right. I've seen people get approved even after being fired for performance issues.

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Oh wow, I haven't heard of that before. Does it actually work better than calling directly?

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Yeah, it was night and day difference. I went from never getting through to talking to an adjudicator within a few days.

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Interesting, I might need to try that if my claim gets complicated.

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UGH the Washington ESD system is so backwards! They make you jump through hoops even when you legitimately need help. I was fired for 'insubordination' (aka standing up for myself against a toxic manager) and it took MONTHS to get approved. The whole process is designed to discourage people from filing.

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That sounds awful. Did you eventually get your benefits though?

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Yeah but only after appealing twice and getting a lawyer involved. Cost me more stress than it was worth honestly.

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That's an extreme case though. Most termination claims don't require lawyers if you present your case clearly.

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File immediately! Even if Washington ESD denies you initially, you have appeal rights. I was terminated for 'poor performance' and got approved after explaining that I never received proper training. The employer has to prove misconduct, not just that they fired you.

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That's good to know. I feel like my situation was more about circumstances than me being a bad employee.

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Exactly! Context matters a lot in these cases.

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Update: I filed my claim online this morning. It was actually pretty straightforward. Now I'm just waiting to see if it goes into adjudication or gets approved automatically. Fingers crossed!

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Good for you! Make sure to file your weekly claims even while it's processing.

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Smart move filing quickly. The sooner you start the process, the sooner you'll know where you stand.

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been there done that. got fired for missing too much work when my kid was sick. took forever to get through to anyone at washington esd but eventually got approved. just be honest about everything

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Thanks for sharing. It helps to know I'm not the only one who's been through this.

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yeah lots of people get fired and still qualify. dont let employers scare you into not filing

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Just to clarify the legal standard: Washington ESD considers termination misconduct if it's a willful violation of company policy that shows disregard for the employer's interests. Chronic tardiness can qualify, but they also look at whether you made efforts to correct the behavior and if there were extenuating circumstances.

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I did try to fix my transportation issues and told my manager about the problems I was having. Hopefully that counts for something.

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That definitely helps your case. Document any efforts you made to address the attendance issues.

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Good point about documentation. Save any texts or emails that show you were trying to resolve the problem.

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My brother got fired for the same thing last year - chronic lateness. Washington ESD approved his claim because he could prove his tardiness was due to his car breaking down repeatedly and he couldn't afford to fix it right away. They said it wasn't willful misconduct since he wasn't late on purpose.

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That's really similar to my situation! I had car trouble too. Did he have to provide proof of the repairs?

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Yeah he had to send in repair estimates and receipts during the adjudication process. Took about a month total.

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Another thing to consider - even if you get denied initially, the appeals process is pretty fair if you have documentation. I've seen people win appeals for termination cases when they can show the firing wasn't justified misconduct.

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Absolutely. The appeal hearing lets you tell your side of the story directly to a judge.

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Good to know there are options if the initial decision doesn't go my way.

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If your claim does go into adjudication, definitely consider using that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier. When I was dealing with my termination case, I needed to talk to someone at Washington ESD to explain my situation, but their phone lines are impossible. Claimyr got me connected to an actual adjudicator who could review my case properly.

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How much does something like that cost though? I'm already tight on money.

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It's worth checking out their site for current info. For me it was way better than spending weeks trying to get through on my own.

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omg yes file!! i got fired for attendance and still got unemployment. washington esd approved me after like 2 weeks. dont listen to your old boss if they try to tell you not to bother filing

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Thanks for the encouragement! My manager did make some comment about me not being eligible, but I figured I'd try anyway.

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employers say that to try to discourage you. file anyway and let washington esd decide

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The bottom line is that Washington ESD looks at each case individually. Being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you - it depends on the specific circumstances. Since you filed already, just be prepared to explain your side if they contact you during adjudication.

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That makes me feel better about my chances. I'll just be honest about what happened and hope for the best.

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Honesty is definitely the best policy with Washington ESD. They can usually tell when people aren't being truthful.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice and encouragement. I'm feeling much more confident about my claim now. I'll update this thread once I hear back from Washington ESD about whether I'm approved or if it goes to adjudication.

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Good luck! Remember to keep filing your weekly claims even while waiting for a decision.

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Hope it works out for you! Most attendance-related terminations do get approved if there were legitimate reasons.

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Keep us posted! Your experience might help others in similar situations.

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I had a friend who used that Claimyr thing too when her claim got stuck. She said it was super easy to use and got her talking to Washington ESD way faster than calling the regular number. Might be worth bookmarking in case you need it.

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I'll definitely keep that in mind. Sounds like it could save a lot of headaches if my case gets complicated.

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Yeah, it's one of those things you hope you don't need but are glad exists when you do need it.

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just remember that even if you get approved you still have to do job searches and all that stuff. dont think getting fired means you get to skip the requirements

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Good point. I'm already planning to start job hunting right away anyway.

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Right, you'll need to register with WorkSource and log your job search activities regardless of how your claim gets approved.

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Washington ESD has been pretty reasonable with termination cases in my experience. They know employers sometimes fire people for reasons that aren't really misconduct. As long as you weren't stealing or doing something really bad, you've got a decent chance.

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That's reassuring. My situation was definitely more about circumstances than any kind of bad behavior.

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Exactly. Context matters a lot in these determinations.

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One more tip - if your claim gets approved, make sure you understand the weekly certification process. You'll need to report any work you do and income you earn each week, even if it's just a few hours here and there.

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Thanks for the reminder. I'll make sure to read all the instructions carefully if I get approved.

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Good advice. Failing to report work or income properly can cause overpayment issues later.

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i was in almost the exact same situation - fired for being late because of bus problems. took about 3 weeks but washington esd approved me. the key was explaining that i was actively trying to solve my transportation issues

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That gives me a lot of hope! I made efforts to fix my car situation too, so hopefully they'll see that I wasn't just being irresponsible.

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yeah as long as you can show you were trying to fix the problem and werent just skipping work for fun, you should be good

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