Washington ESD question - worker changing jobs unemployment type classification

Thanks! That makes sense. So it's considered normal and expected in the job market?

Exactly. Frictional unemployment is actually a sign of a dynamic economy where people have choices and mobility.

Oh that's an important distinction! So the economic classification is different from benefit eligibility requirements.

Right, and there are exceptions too. If you quit for "good cause" related to work conditions, you might still qualify for benefits.

Wow, that must have been stressful. How long did the appeal process take?

About 6 weeks total. I had to provide documentation of the job offer and proof that it was withdrawn through no fault of mine.

I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks about a similar issue. Those phone lines are impossible!

Yeah, that's exactly why I used Claimyr. They handle the waiting and call you back when they get an agent on the line.

Perfect! Those statistics will be really useful for my presentation. Do you know if Washington state has different rates than the national average?

Washington typically has slightly lower frictional unemployment due to our tech sector and strong job market, but the principles remain the same.

Good point! I'll make sure to define each type clearly in my project.

Also worth noting that someone can experience multiple types simultaneously - like a factory worker whose plant closed (structural) during a recession (cyclical) who's now job hunting (frictional).

You should definitely apply for benefits and explain the circumstances. If you can prove the job offer was legitimate and withdrawn, you might qualify.

I have the email offer and the follow-up email saying they were putting hiring on hold. Hope that's enough documentation.

That sounds like good evidence. Make sure to keep all the communication records for your case.

That's a great point to include in my analysis. It shows that not all unemployment is necessarily bad for the economy.

Exactly. The key is that frictional unemployment is voluntary and temporary, unlike structural unemployment which can be long-term and require retraining.

Thanks for the resource! I'll check that out for more official definitions.

The ESD website can be confusing though. If you need to speak with someone directly, that Claimyr service mentioned earlier really does work.

Generally no, you can't get benefits if you quit without good cause. The system is designed to help people who lose jobs involuntarily.

There are exceptions for unsafe working conditions, harassment, or if you quit to take another job that falls through. But you have to prove it.

oh ok that makes more sense. I was thinking about quitting my job but maybe I should find another one first

Interesting perspective! I hadn't thought about how modern job search methods might affect the duration of frictional unemployment.

LinkedIn and other platforms definitely make it easier to job hunt discretely. You don't have to quit to explore opportunities anymore.

That's good to know from an employer perspective. It sounds like frictional unemployment can benefit both workers and employers.

Absolutely. High turnover due to better opportunities often indicates a healthy job market and competitive wages.

I'll definitely emphasize that distinction. It seems like the economic classification and benefit eligibility are two separate considerations.

Exactly. You can have frictional unemployment that's either eligible or ineligible for benefits depending on the circumstances of the job separation.

Thanks everyone! This discussion has been incredibly helpful for understanding both the theoretical and practical aspects.

Hope you get a good grade! Economics can be tricky but unemployment types are pretty straightforward once you understand the definitions.

I feel much more confident about the topic now. Really appreciate all the insights and real-world examples!