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Zainab Omar

Valid reasons to file for unemployment benefits in Washington - need clarification

I'm trying to figure out if my situation qualifies for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. I left my job at a retail store after my manager started scheduling me for shifts that conflicted with my second job, even though I told them about the conflict when I was hired. They said I could either work their schedule or find another job. I chose to quit because I couldn't afford to lose my other job. Does this count as a valid reason to file for unemployment? I've heard conflicting information about whether quitting for scheduling conflicts qualifies you for benefits.

In Washington state, you can potentially qualify for unemployment even if you quit, but it has to be for what they call 'good cause.' Scheduling conflicts can sometimes qualify if you can prove the employer changed your schedule after you were hired and it creates a substantial hardship. You'll need to document everything - your original schedule agreement, when they changed it, how you tried to resolve it with management.

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Zainab Omar

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I do have the original job posting that mentioned flexible scheduling and some text messages about the schedule changes. Should I gather anything else before filing?

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Yes, get any emails or written communication about the scheduling issue. Also document your attempts to resolve it with your supervisor. The more paper trail you have, the better your case will be during adjudication.

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Yara Sayegh

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Washington ESD looks at several factors for 'good cause' quits. Schedule changes that create undue hardship can qualify, especially if you made good faith efforts to work with your employer first. Did you try to negotiate with them or just quit immediately when they gave you the ultimatum?

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Zainab Omar

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I asked if we could find a compromise and suggested some alternative schedule options, but my manager said it was their way or nothing. I even offered to work different days but they wouldn't budge.

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Yara Sayegh

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That sounds like you made reasonable attempts to resolve the issue. Make sure to include all those details in your unemployment application. Washington ESD will want to see that you tried to work it out before quitting.

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I've been trying to get through to Washington ESD for weeks to ask about my own quit situation but their phone lines are impossible. I've called hundreds of times and either get busy signals or hung up on after waiting for hours. Has anyone found a way to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD recently?

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Amina Diallo

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Just wanted to add that Washington ESD is really strict about the 'good cause' requirement. They'll investigate your claim thoroughly and may contact your former employer to get their side of the story. Make sure everything you put in your application is 100% accurate because any inconsistencies can hurt your case.

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Zainab Omar

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That's good to know. Should I be worried about my employer fighting my claim? They might not want their unemployment insurance rates to go up.

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Amina Diallo

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Employers do sometimes contest claims, but if you have solid documentation and a legitimate good cause reason, you should be fine. The key is being honest and thorough in your application.

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Oliver Schulz

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ugh the whole washington esd system is such a nightmare. i quit my job last year for similar reasons and they denied me initially. had to go through the whole appeal process which took MONTHS. even when you have good cause they make it so difficult to prove

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Zainab Omar

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Oh no, that sounds awful. Did you eventually get approved after the appeal?

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Oliver Schulz

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yeah finally got approved but it was like 4 months of stress and paperwork. make sure you keep EVERYTHING documented from day one

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I'm going through an appeal right now and it's been 6 weeks since my hearing. The whole process is so slow and frustrating.

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Javier Cruz

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For anyone reading this thread, here are the main 'good cause' reasons Washington ESD typically accepts for voluntary quits: substantial reduction in hours/pay, unsafe working conditions, harassment/discrimination, domestic violence situations, medical issues, and significant changes to job duties or schedule that create hardship. Your situation with scheduling conflicts could definitely fit if you document it properly.

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Zainab Omar

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This is really helpful, thank you! It sounds like I might have a decent case if I document everything correctly.

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Emma Wilson

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I quit due to harassment from my supervisor and got approved. The key was having specific dates, incidents, and any witnesses or documentation. Washington ESD really wants concrete evidence, not just your word against theirs.

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Malik Thomas

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One thing to remember is that even if you qualify for benefits after quitting, you still have to meet all the other requirements like doing your weekly claims, job search activities, and being available for work. Don't assume that getting approved means you're done with the process.

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Zainab Omar

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Good point. I'm definitely ready to start job searching immediately if I get approved. How many jobs do you have to apply for each week in Washington?

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Malik Thomas

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It depends on your situation but typically 3 job search activities per week. Make sure you're registering with WorkSource WA too, that's usually required.

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NeonNebula

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And keep detailed records of all your job search activities! They can audit you at any time and if you can't prove you were looking for work, they'll make you pay back benefits.

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I'm dealing with something similar but my employer is claiming I abandoned my job instead of quit with notice. They're saying I was a no-show but I actually called in and told them I couldn't work the new schedule. Now I'm worried Washington ESD will see it as job abandonment instead of a quit for good cause.

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That's why documentation is so crucial. Do you have any record of calling in or notifying them? Text messages, emails, anything that shows you properly resigned?

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I called and left a voicemail but didn't think to follow up with an email. I'm kicking myself now for not getting it in writing.

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Ravi Malhotra

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You might want to contact Washington ESD directly about this discrepancy. If your employer is misrepresenting what happened, that could affect your claim. I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier to get through to an agent when I had a similar issue with my employer's story not matching reality.

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Just wanted to share that I successfully got unemployment after quitting for a hostile work environment. The key was documenting every incident with dates and details. I also had a coworker willing to be a witness. Don't give up if you have a legitimate good cause reason - just make sure you can prove it.

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Zainab Omar

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That's encouraging to hear! How long did the whole process take from filing to getting your first payment?

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About 6 weeks total, but that included a brief adjudication period where they investigated my good cause claim. Some people get approved faster if their case is more straightforward.

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Omar Farouk

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does anyone know if you can file for unemployment if you quit because your employer wouldn't accommodate a disability? my manager refused to let me take breaks for my medical condition even though i had a doctors note

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Javier Cruz

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That would definitely qualify as good cause under Washington law. Failure to provide reasonable accommodations for a documented medical condition is a legitimate reason to quit. Make sure you have all your medical documentation and any communication with your employer about the accommodation request.

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Omar Farouk

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ok good i was worried i wouldn't qualify. i have all the doctors paperwork and emails where they denied my request

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Chloe Davis

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You might also want to file a complaint with the Washington State Human Rights Commission if they violated disability accommodation laws. That's separate from unemployment but could strengthen your case.

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AstroAlpha

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Reading through this thread makes me realize I probably should have filed for unemployment when I quit my toxic job last year. I thought you couldn't get benefits if you quit voluntarily, but it sounds like there are legitimate exceptions. Too bad it's too late now.

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You typically have to file within a certain timeframe after becoming unemployed, but it's worth checking with Washington ESD to see if you have any options. Sometimes there are exceptions for people who didn't know they were eligible.

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AstroAlpha

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I'll look into it, thanks. I had no idea good cause quits could qualify for benefits.

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Diego Chavez

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For the original poster, I'd recommend filing your claim as soon as possible even if you're not 100% sure you'll qualify. Washington ESD can take weeks to process claims and make determinations, so the sooner you start the process, the better. Worst case scenario, they deny you and you're no worse off than you are now.

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Zainab Omar

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That's a good point. I've been hesitating because I wasn't sure, but you're right that there's no harm in trying. I'll gather all my documentation and file this week.

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Agreed. I waited too long to file when I was laid off and missed out on weeks of potential benefits. The application process itself doesn't cost anything, so there's really no downside to applying if you think you might qualify.

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Sean O'Brien

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Just make sure you're completely honest in your application. Washington ESD will investigate thoroughly and any false information can disqualify you permanently from benefits. Better to be honest and get denied than lie and get caught later.

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