Transitioning from ESD unemployment to WA Paid Sick Leave after knee injury - help needed
My unemployment benefits are about to run out (last payment will be week ending 9/10/2025) and I'm panicking a bit about what comes next. I've been job searching with limitations because I have a pretty serious knee injury that requires replacement surgery. My former employer is contesting the work-related nature of the injury, which has delayed everything. My doctor is putting me on WA Paid Sick Leave starting the week after my UI ends. I submitted all the paperwork for this about a month ago but haven't heard anything back. Has anyone gone through this transition from unemployment to paid sick leave? What should I expect? Is there anything specific I need to do with ESD when my benefits end and sick leave begins? I'm worried about a gap between the two and not being able to pay bills while waiting for surgery approval.
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Nia Thompson
I went thru this last year with a back injury. The most important thing is to make sure you've got separate claims - your UI claim with ESD ends completely, and then the PFML (paid family medical leave) is a totally different program even though the state runs both. You don't need to tell ESD anything about switching to sick leave.
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Luca Esposito
•Thanks for clarifying! I've been so confused about whether these are connected programs. So I just let my UI claim end naturally and don't need to notify ESD? Are there any weird gaps in payment I should budget for?
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Mateo Rodriguez
Quick thing to clarify - when you say "WA Sick Leave" are you referring to Washington's Paid Family & Medical Leave (PFML) program? Or are you talking about the employer-provided paid sick leave? These are two completely different programs with different application processes and benefit amounts. For PFML, you apply through the state at paidleave.wa.gov, not through your employer. Based on your situation with the knee replacement, PFML sounds more appropriate since it's for longer-term medical issues.
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Luca Esposito
•Yes, sorry for the confusion! I meant the PFML program. That's what my doctor recommended for the surgery and recovery period. I submitted the application through the state website, but it still shows as "under review" when I log in.
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GalaxyGuardian
I successfully transitioned from UI to PFML last year. Here's what you need to know: 1. They are completely separate programs, so one ending doesn't automatically start the other 2. PFML typically takes 2-3 weeks to process applications once ALL documentation is received 3. Make sure your healthcare provider submitted their certification correctly - this is the #1 delay cause 4. PFML is retroactive to your filing date if approved, so you won't lose any eligible weeks 5. Keep checking your PFML account for any notices requesting additional information 6. Continue your job search requirements for UI until your last eligible week The most important thing is making sure your medical documentation clearly supports why you cannot work. The employer contesting the work-relatedness doesn't matter for PFML (that's L&I territory), but you do need medical documentation showing you can't work.
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Luca Esposito
•This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I've been so stressed about the timing. I just checked and my doctor did upload the medical certification, but I'll follow up to make sure it has everything needed. Did you experience any gap between your last UI payment and first PFML payment?
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GalaxyGuardian
Yes, there was about a 3-week gap between my last UI payment and first PFML deposit. Budget for at least a month gap to be safe. The good news is that PFML will pay retroactively to your eligible start date once approved, so you'll eventually get all the money you're entitled to. Also, if your PFML application has been "under review" for more than 3 weeks, you should definitely try calling them. Their customer service is actually much better than ESD's, but they're still overwhelmed with applications.
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Aisha Abdullah
•good luck getting anyone on the phone at PFML! i tried for WEEKS and could never get through. kept getting the "call volumes are too high" message and then it would hang up. so frustrating!!!
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Ethan Wilson
I had a similar situation with a shoulder surgery last year. I was on UI, then switched to PFML for the surgery and recovery. One thing nobody told me - PFML only pays a percentage of your wages (up to 90% depending on your income level), not the full amount like UI sometimes does. So be prepared for potentially getting less money per week. Also, they're super backlogged right now from what my sister told me (she just applied last month). Took her almost 5 weeks to get approved and get her first payment.
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Luca Esposito
•Oh that's concerning about the current backlog. Do you know if there's any way to check the status beyond just logging into the PFML account? The percentage of wages is actually okay for me since UI was only giving me about 60% of my former income anyway.
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Yuki Tanaka
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Nia Thompson
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Carmen Diaz
ur mixing up TWO TOTALLY different things!! UI is when ur unemployed. PFML is for when ur unable to work due to medical. theyre totally seperate and PFML is WAAAAAY HARDER to get approved for because u need all this medical proof. also u need to have worked 820 hours in the qualifying period to get PFML so make sure u qualify. not everyone does!
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Luca Esposito
•I know they're separate programs. I've been on UI while job searching with restrictions, but now the doctor is saying I can't work at all until after surgery, which is why I'm switching to PFML. I checked and I do qualify for the hours requirement from my previous job.
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Andre Laurent
Just a heads-up that while waiting for PFML approval you should still do your weekly UI claims if you have any weeks left. If your PFML gets backdated to overlap with UI weeks, you'd have to pay back the UI for those weeks, but at least you'd have something coming in during the gap. Better safe than sorry. And document EVERYTHING – save confirmation numbers, take screenshots of submitted forms, etc. These systems are so broken it's crazy.
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GalaxyGuardian
•This is incorrect advice. You cannot legally claim UI and PFML for the same weeks - that's considered fraud. UI requires you to be able and available for work, while PFML requires a doctor to certify you CANNOT work. You should never claim both simultaneously. The correct approach is to stop UI claims when your medical leave begins.
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Luca Esposito
I just got off the phone with my doctor's office and they confirmed they submitted all the required medical certification forms for PFML. They said it's not unusual for it to take 3-4 weeks for processing right now. I guess I just need to be patient and budget carefully for the gap. Thanks everyone for your advice and sharing your experiences. I'll stop my UI claims after my last eligible week and hope the PFML kicks in quickly after that.
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Ethan Wilson
•Good plan. And remember that unlike UI, you don't have to file weekly claims with PFML once you're approved. They just pay you based on the certification period your doctor provided. One less thing to worry about at least!
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