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How often are federal unemployment taxes deposited - Washington ESD payroll question

I'm managing payroll for a small business in Washington and trying to figure out the deposit schedule for federal unemployment taxes. We've been doing quarterly deposits but I'm reading conflicting information about whether we should be depositing more frequently. Our Washington ESD account is current but I want to make sure we're handling the federal side correctly. Does anyone know the standard deposit frequency for FUTA taxes? I don't want to get hit with penalties.

FUTA deposits are typically due quarterly, but it depends on your total liability. If you owe more than $500 in FUTA tax for the quarter, you need to deposit by the last day of the month following the quarter. So Q1 deposits would be due April 30th, Q2 by July 31st, etc.

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That matches what I thought. We're usually around $800-900 per quarter so we should be good with quarterly deposits.

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Just make sure you're calculating on the first $7,000 of each employee's wages for the year. The rate is 6% but you get credit for state unemployment taxes paid to Washington ESD.

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wait i thought federal unemployment was monthly? thats what our accountant told us last year

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You might be thinking of federal income tax withholding or FICA taxes. Those can be monthly or semi-weekly depending on your deposit schedule. FUTA is different - it's quarterly for most small businesses.

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oh that makes sense, we probably got confused because we do payroll taxes monthly

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This is exactly why I started using Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD agents when I had questions about our unemployment account. Trying to navigate all the different tax requirements between state and federal was driving me crazy. The video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ shows how easy it is to actually reach someone who can clarify which deposits go where.

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I haven't heard of that service before. Do they help with federal tax questions too or just Washington ESD issues?

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They specifically help you reach Washington ESD agents by phone. For federal questions you'd still need to contact the IRS directly, but having the state side figured out makes everything clearer.

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The key thing to remember is that even though you pay FUTA quarterly, you still need to track it throughout the year. Once an employee hits that $7,000 wage base, you stop paying FUTA on their wages for the rest of the year. So your quarterly amounts will vary.

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Good point. I need to make sure our payroll system is tracking that correctly. Do you know if the $7,000 base changes from year to year?

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It can change but it's been $7,000 for several years now. The IRS announces any changes well in advance.

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ugh payroll taxes are such a headache. between washington esd, federal unemployment, social security, medicare... how do small businesses keep track of all this?

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Honestly, good payroll software is worth every penny. It tracks all the different wage bases and deposit schedules automatically.

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any recommendations? we're still doing everything manually and its getting overwhelming

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One thing that caught me off guard was that you need to file Form 940 annually even if you don't owe any FUTA tax for the year. I thought I could skip it if all my employees were under the wage base but apparently that's not how it works.

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Yep, Form 940 is due every year regardless. Due date is January 31st, or February 10th if you made all your deposits on time.

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That ten-day extension for timely deposits is nice to know about. Takes some pressure off the year-end rush.

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For what it's worth, I've found that calling Washington ESD directly when I have questions about the interaction between state and federal taxes is usually more helpful than trying to parse through IRS publications. The agents can explain how the state credit affects your federal liability.

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How do you get through to them? Every time I call I get a busy signal or sit on hold forever.

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I actually started using claimyr.com to get connected. It's a service that helps you reach Washington ESD agents without sitting on hold. Saved me hours of frustration.

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The 0.6% effective FUTA rate assumes you're paying your Washington ESD taxes on time and in full. If you get behind on state payments, your federal rate can jump to the full 6%. That's a huge difference when you're talking about multiple employees.

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That's a great point. So staying current with Washington ESD isn't just about state compliance - it affects federal taxes too.

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Exactly. It's one of those things where falling behind on one creates problems with the other.

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anyone know if the deposit timing changes if you're a new business? we just started this year and want to make sure we're doing everything right from the beginning

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New businesses follow the same quarterly rules, but make sure you register for your federal EIN and Washington ESD employer account as soon as you hire your first employee. Don't wait until the end of the quarter.

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we got our EIN already but still working on the washington esd registration. its more complicated than i expected

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I made the mistake of thinking I could just pay everything at year-end and got hit with penalties. Even though the amounts were small, the IRS doesn't mess around with deposit timing requirements.

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How big were the penalties? I'm worried about making a mistake in our first year.

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It was about $150 in penalties on maybe $600 in taxes. The percentage is small but it adds up, especially if you're consistently late.

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Just want to emphasize again how helpful it's been to actually talk to Washington ESD agents when I had questions about employer accounts. Before I found Claimyr, I was just guessing about a lot of this stuff. Now I can get real answers instead of hoping I'm interpreting the rules correctly.

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Is that service expensive? We're trying to keep costs down as a new business.

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The peace of mind is worth it when you're dealing with tax compliance issues. Check out their demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ to see how it works.

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Don't forget that if you're in a credit reduction state (which Washington isn't currently), your FUTA rate would be higher. But since Washington ESD maintains good standing with the federal government, we get the full 5.4% credit.

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What makes a state lose credit? I want to make sure I understand how this all connects.

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Usually it's when a state's unemployment trust fund goes into debt to the federal government and they don't pay it back quickly enough. Washington has managed to avoid that situation.

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the whole system seems designed to confuse small business owners. between quarterly deposits, annual forms, wage bases that change, and coordination with state taxes, its like they want you to make mistakes

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I get the frustration, but once you understand the pattern it's not too bad. The key is just staying organized and not waiting until the last minute.

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easy for you to say, you probably have experience with this stuff

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One thing that helps is setting up calendar reminders for all the key dates. Quarterly FUTA deposits, annual Form 940, Washington ESD quarterly reports. If you treat it like any other business expense and plan for it, it's much less stressful.

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That's a good idea. I've been winging it so far but a systematic approach would definitely help.

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I also keep a simple spreadsheet tracking wages and tax liabilities by quarter. Makes it easy to see when you're approaching deposit thresholds.

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This might be a dumb question but do you have to make FUTA deposits if you don't owe any because all your employees are under the wage base?

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No, you only deposit if you actually owe tax. But you still need to file Form 940 at year-end even if the amount is zero.

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ok that makes sense, thanks for clarifying

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I always wondered why federal and state unemployment taxes have such different rules and timing. Seems like it would be simpler if they were coordinated better.

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Different agencies, different purposes. State unemployment provides the actual benefits to workers, federal is more about maintaining the overall system and providing loans to states when needed.

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i guess that explains why washington esd handles most of the day-to-day stuff

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For anyone still confused about the deposit schedule, the IRS has a pretty good publication that breaks it all down. Publication 15 covers most employer tax obligations including FUTA timing.

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I'll look that up. Is it written in plain English or is it full of tax jargon?

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It's clearer than most IRS publications but still pretty technical. Sometimes talking to a person is easier than trying to parse the official guidance.

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Bottom line - if you're a small business owing less than $500 per quarter in FUTA, you can wait until year-end to deposit. If you owe more than $500 in any quarter, deposit by the end of the following month. And always file Form 940 by January 31st regardless of how much you owe.

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Perfect summary. That's exactly what I needed to know. Thanks everyone for the help!

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No problem. These employer tax questions come up a lot and it's good to have a clear answer in one place.

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Agreed. Wish I'd found a thread like this when I was starting out. Would have saved me a lot of stress and probably some penalty fees too.

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