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Washington ESD employer - how often is federal unemployment tax paid?

I just started a small business in Washington and I'm trying to figure out the federal unemployment tax schedule. I know I have to pay FUTA but I'm confused about how often payments are due. Is it quarterly like state unemployment taxes to Washington ESD or is it different? I don't want to mess this up and get penalties.

FUTA is paid annually, not quarterly. You file Form 940 by January 31st for the previous year. However, if you owe more than $500 in FUTA tax during the year, you need to make quarterly deposits.

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Thanks! So if I owe less than $500 total for the year, I can just pay it all when I file the 940?

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Exactly. If your FUTA liability is $500 or less, you can pay it with your annual return. More than $500 and you need quarterly deposits.

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Just to clarify - FUTA is 6% on the first $7,000 of wages per employee, but you get a credit for state unemployment taxes paid to Washington ESD. So it's usually 0.6% effective rate.

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That's a huge difference! So as long as I'm paying my Washington ESD taxes on time, I get that credit?

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Yes, as long as Washington is not a credit reduction state and you pay your state unemployment taxes on time. Washington ESD is in good standing so you should get the full credit.

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Been dealing with this for years. The quarterly deposit dates are the same as other federal taxes - April 30, July 31, October 31, and January 31. But only if you owe over $500 in FUTA.

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Good to know the dates. I'm still small so I'll probably be under $500 for now but good to plan ahead.

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Yeah, it creeps up fast as you hire more people. Better to set aside money quarterly even if you don't have to deposit it.

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wait i thought all payroll taxes were quarterly?? this is confusing

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No, FUTA is different from other payroll taxes. Social Security and Medicare taxes are deposited more frequently, but FUTA has its own schedule.

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ok thanks, payroll taxes are so complicated lol

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The $500 threshold is key here. Most small businesses don't hit that in their first year. I didn't have to make quarterly deposits until year 2 when I had more employees.

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That's reassuring. I'm only planning to hire 2-3 part-time employees initially.

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You'll probably be fine then. Just keep track of your FUTA liability throughout the year so you know when you cross the threshold.

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Don't forget about the Washington ESD portion too. You'll need to register with them separately and pay state unemployment taxes quarterly. The FUTA credit depends on staying current with those.

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I already registered with Washington ESD. Their quarterly payments are due when exactly?

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Washington ESD quarterly reports are due April 30, July 31, October 31, and January 31. Same dates as FUTA deposits actually.

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Pro tip: even if you're under the $500 threshold, you can still make quarterly deposits if you want. Sometimes it's easier for cash flow management.

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That's actually a good idea. Might be easier to budget if I set aside money each quarter.

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Exactly! Plus you won't get hit with a big bill at year end if your business grows faster than expected.

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The IRS has a good publication on this - Publication 15 (Circular E). It explains all the payroll tax schedules including FUTA.

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Thanks for the reference! I'll check that out.

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Publication 15 is definitely the go-to resource. Very detailed but comprehensive.

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Just remember that if you're late on FUTA deposits, the penalties can be steep. 2% for 1-5 days late, up to 15% for more than 10 days.

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Yikes, that's expensive. I'll make sure to stay on top of the deadlines.

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Yeah, it's not worth the risk. Set calendar reminders well in advance.

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ugh federal taxes are the worst. at least washington esd has decent online systems for state unemployment stuff

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True, the Washington ESD website is pretty user-friendly compared to some government sites.

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right? way better than trying to navigate irs.gov lol

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One thing to watch out for - if you have employees in multiple states, you might have different FUTA credit situations. But sounds like you're just in Washington so you should be fine.

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Good point, but yeah just Washington employees for now. Will keep that in mind if I expand.

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Smart to plan ahead. Multi-state payroll gets complicated fast.

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I use a payroll service and they handle all this stuff. Might be worth considering if you're not comfortable with the compliance side.

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I've thought about that. What do you pay for payroll services?

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Varies a lot. Some charge per employee per month, others have flat fees. Shop around and compare what's included.

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The FUTA credit reduction thing is important to understand. If your state owes money to the federal government, you lose some of that credit. Washington has been good about this though.

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How would I know if Washington had credit reduction issues?

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The IRS publishes a list each year of credit reduction states. Washington ESD also would notify employers if this affected us.

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Been running a business for 10 years and still double-check these dates every year. The penalties for missing deposits are no joke.

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Good to know even experienced business owners stay vigilant about this stuff.

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Absolutely. Tax compliance is one area where it's better to be overly cautious.

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don't forget to keep good records of when you make deposits and payments to both irs and washington esd. makes life easier during audits

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Good advice. I'm trying to set up good bookkeeping habits from the start.

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smart move. way easier to stay organized from day one than to fix it later

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If you're doing your own payroll, make sure you understand the difference between when taxes are due vs when returns are due. They're not always the same.

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Can you explain that more? I thought they were the same.

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For FUTA, deposits might be due quarterly but the annual return (Form 940) isn't due until January 31st. Similar concept with other payroll taxes.

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The wage base for FUTA is only $7,000 per employee per year, so once you hit that, you stop paying FUTA on that employee. Unlike Social Security which has a much higher wage base.

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Oh that's interesting. So if I pay someone $20,000 a year, I only pay FUTA on the first $7,000?

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Exactly. FUTA stops at $7,000 per employee. But Washington ESD might have a different wage base for state unemployment taxes.

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Check with your accountant or tax preparer too. They usually have good systems for tracking all these deadlines and can help you avoid mistakes.

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I don't have one yet but probably should find one soon.

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Definitely worth it, especially in the first year when you're learning all the requirements.

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just remember that washington esd and federal unemployment tax are completely separate systems. you'll deal with washington esd quarterly and irs annually (unless you hit the $500 threshold

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Got it, thanks for the summary. Helps to have it spelled out clearly.

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That's a good way to think about it - separate systems with different schedules and requirements.

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One more thing - if you're incorporated, make sure you're not paying FUTA on yourself if you're the owner. Different rules apply for corporate officers vs regular employees.

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I'm an LLC, does that change anything?

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LLC members typically aren't subject to unemployment taxes on their own earnings. But check with a tax professional to be sure.

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