How much does employer pay for unemployment benefits in Washington state?
I'm trying to understand the Washington ESD unemployment tax system because I'm starting a small business and need to budget for payroll taxes. Does anyone know how much employers actually pay into the unemployment fund? I keep seeing different numbers online and I'm getting confused about the rates and wage bases. Also wondering if there are different rates for new businesses vs established ones?
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Abigail Spencer
Washington ESD uses an experience rating system for unemployment taxes. New employers typically start at 2.7% for the first few years, then your rate adjusts based on your claims history. The wage base for 2025 is $68,500 per employee, so that's the maximum wages subject to unemployment tax per worker.
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Anita George
•Thanks! So if I have 3 employees making $50k each, I'd pay 2.7% on $150k total wages?
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Abigail Spencer
•Exactly right. And if you have low turnover and few unemployment claims, your rate will go down over time.
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Logan Chiang
i think the rates can go way higher than that tho... my old boss was complaining about paying like 5% or something because they had a lot of layoffs
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Isla Fischer
•Yeah, high-turnover industries definitely pay more. I've seen construction companies with rates over 6% because of seasonal layoffs and high claim volumes.
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Miles Hammonds
•That's why some employers try to fight unemployment claims - it directly affects their tax rate.
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Ruby Blake
Wait, so employers are the ones funding unemployment benefits? I always thought it came from our paychecks like other taxes.
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Abigail Spencer
•Nope, unemployment insurance is 100% employer-funded in Washington. Employees don't pay anything into the system, unlike some other states.
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Ruby Blake
•Wow, I had no idea. That actually makes me feel less guilty about filing for unemployment last year.
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Micah Franklin
The rate calculation is pretty complex. It's based on your 'benefit ratio' which compares benefits charged to your account versus your total payroll over a 4-year period. New employers get the new employer rate, but after 3-4 years you get your individual rate based on your experience.
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Anita George
•Is there a way to estimate what my rate might be in the future? I want to plan ahead.
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Micah Franklin
•Washington ESD has rate schedules published annually. The lowest rates are around 0.19% for employers with no claims, highest can be over 6% for high-claim employers.
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Ella Harper
One thing to watch out for - if you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD about your tax account, there's a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps get through to ESD agents. I used it when I had questions about my quarterly tax filings and couldn't get through the regular phone lines. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.
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Anita George
•Interesting, I'll check that out. The few times I've tried calling Washington ESD I've been on hold forever.
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PrinceJoe
•I've heard of Claimyr but never tried it. Do they just help you get through faster?
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Ella Harper
•Yeah, they basically monitor the phone lines and call you back when an agent is available. Saved me hours of waiting.
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Brooklyn Knight
Also remember there's a Social Cost factor that gets added to all rates. For 2025 it's like 0.02% or something small, but it's applied to everyone to cover administrative costs.
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Anita George
•So many little fees and factors! This is more complicated than I thought.
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Brooklyn Knight
•Yeah, and there's also a solvency surcharge that kicks in sometimes when the trust fund gets low.
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Owen Devar
Don't forget about the quarterly reporting requirements. You have to file Form 5208 every quarter even if you don't owe any taxes. Miss a filing and you get penalties.
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Anita George
•Good to know! When are the quarterly deadlines?
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Owen Devar
•April 30, July 31, October 31, and January 31. Always the last day of the month following the quarter.
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Daniel Rivera
my company's HR person mentioned something about 'successorship' affecting our rate when we acquired another business. anyone know what that means?
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Micah Franklin
•When you acquire a business, you can sometimes inherit their unemployment tax rate if you take over their workforce. It's called successor liability.
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Daniel Rivera
•ugh that sounds complicated... so we could get stuck with a higher rate?
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Micah Franklin
•Potentially yes, but there are ways to structure acquisitions to avoid that. Definitely something to consider in due diligence.
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Sophie Footman
I read somewhere that nonprofit organizations can elect to reimburse claims instead of paying taxes. Is that true?
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Abigail Spencer
•Yes, 501(c)(3) nonprofits and government entities can choose the reimbursement method instead of paying taxes. They pay dollar-for-dollar for any unemployment benefits claimed by their former employees.
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Sophie Footman
•That could be better or worse depending on your turnover rate I guess.
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Connor Rupert
What happens if you don't pay your unemployment taxes? Are the penalties as harsh as other payroll taxes?
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Abigail Spencer
•Washington ESD can be pretty aggressive about collections. They can file liens, garnish accounts, and even shut down your business in extreme cases.
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Connor Rupert
•Yikes, definitely don't want to mess with that then.
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Molly Hansen
Is there any way to get a lower rate if you're just starting out? The 2.7% seems high for a new business with no claims history.
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Micah Franklin
•Unfortunately no, all new employers start at the same rate. But if you maintain low turnover and avoid layoffs, your rate will drop significantly after a few years.
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Molly Hansen
•I guess that makes sense from a risk management perspective.
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Brady Clean
Can someone explain how the 'benefit ratio' calculation works exactly? I keep seeing references to it but don't understand the formula.
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Micah Franklin
•It's (benefits charged to your account ÷ total taxable payroll) × 100. So if you paid $100k in wages and had $3k in benefits charged, your benefit ratio would be 3.0%.
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Brady Clean
•And that ratio determines which rate schedule you fall into?
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Micah Franklin
•Exactly. Lower ratios mean lower tax rates.
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Skylar Neal
I'm surprised how many people don't know employers pay for unemployment. I thought everyone knew that!
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Ruby Blake
•Well I learned something new today! I honestly thought it was like Social Security where both employer and employee contribute.
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Vincent Bimbach
•Actually in some states employees do pay into unemployment, but Washington is employer-only.
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Kelsey Chin
The whole system seems designed to discourage layoffs, which I guess is the point. Higher claims = higher taxes.
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Isla Fischer
•That's exactly right. It's an incentive system to encourage stable employment.
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Kelsey Chin
•Makes sense from a policy perspective, even if it's expensive for businesses.
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Norah Quay
One more thing - if you're thinking about using Claimyr to reach Washington ESD about tax questions, I can vouch for it. Used them twice when I had rate calculation questions and couldn't get through the regular lines. Much less frustrating than sitting on hold for hours.
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Anita George
•I'll definitely look into that. Getting straight answers about tax obligations is crucial for planning.
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Leo McDonald
•Same here, might be worth it just for the peace of mind of talking to an actual person.
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Jessica Nolan
Don't forget to factor in the administrative costs too. Even if you're paying the minimum rate, there's still time and effort involved in quarterly reporting and record keeping.
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Anita George
•Good point. I should probably budget for bookkeeping help or payroll software.
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Jessica Nolan
•Definitely worth it. Mistakes on payroll taxes can be expensive to fix.
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Angelina Farar
This has been really helpful! I feel like I have a much better understanding of how Washington unemployment taxes work now.
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Abigail Spencer
•Glad we could help! Feel free to ask if you have more questions as you get your business set up.
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Anita George
•Thanks everyone! This forum is way more helpful than trying to decipher the ESD website.
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Sebastián Stevens
One last tip - when you register your business, make sure to get your unemployment account number right away. You'll need it for all your filings and it can take a while to get if you wait.
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Anita George
•I'll make sure to do that. Thanks for all the advice!
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Bethany Groves
•Yeah, and keep good records from day one. Makes everything easier when it's time to file.
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KingKongZilla
Just remember that rates change every year based on the trust fund balance and overall economic conditions. What you pay this year might be different next year even with the same experience rating.
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Anita George
•So I need to stay on top of the rate schedules each year?
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KingKongZilla
•Yep, Washington ESD publishes new rate schedules annually. Usually comes out in the fall for the following year.
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Rebecca Johnston
Anyone know if there's a minimum tax amount? Like if you only have one part-time employee making $5k a year?
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Abigail Spencer
•There's no minimum tax amount, but there are minimum wage thresholds. If you pay less than $1,000 in wages in a quarter, you might not owe any unemployment tax at all.
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Rebecca Johnston
•That's good to know for very small operations.
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Lucy Lam
This thread has been super informative! As someone who's been running payroll for a few years, I just wanted to add that it's worth noting the wage base ($68,500 for 2025) gets adjusted annually too. So even if your rate stays the same, your total tax liability can change if the wage base increases and you have higher-paid employees. Also, make sure you understand the difference between "taxable wages" and total compensation - things like some benefits and reimbursements might not count toward the wage base.
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Freya Pedersen
•Thanks for adding that detail about the wage base adjustment! I hadn't considered how that could affect my taxes even with a stable rate. When you mention "taxable wages" vs total compensation, are things like health insurance premiums and retirement contributions excluded from the unemployment tax calculation?
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