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How much does Washington ESD charge employers for unemployment benefits?

I'm starting a small business in Washington and trying to figure out all the costs involved. Does anyone know how much employers actually pay into the unemployment system? I keep seeing different numbers online and want to make sure I budget correctly for Washington ESD taxes. Is it a percentage of payroll or a flat fee per employee?

It's based on your payroll and your experience rating. New employers start around 2.7% but it can go higher or lower depending on how many former employees file claims against your account.

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So if I have no employees file claims, my rate could go down over time?

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Exactly! Clean record = lower rates. But one bad separation can spike your costs for years.

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Washington ESD uses a tiered system. The rate depends on your industry classification and claim history. Manufacturing might pay different rates than retail. You'll get assigned a rate when you register as an employer.

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I'm planning to open a restaurant. Any idea what industry rate that would fall under?

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Food service typically has higher rates due to seasonal employment patterns. Probably looking at 3-4% to start.

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Restaurants definitely pay more because of high turnover. My brother owns one and his rate is like 5.2% now.

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Just went through this process last year. You pay on the first $68,500 of each employee's wages. So if someone makes $80k, you only pay unemployment tax on $68,500 of it.

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That wage base seems really high compared to other states I've looked at.

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Yeah Washington has one of the highest wage bases in the country. It goes up every year too.

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Is that legit? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks about my employer registration.

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How much does something like that cost though? Seems like it could add up if you need to call frequently.

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the rate calculation is super confusing honestly. i think new employers get some default rate but then it changes based on your history with claims. my accountant handles all that stuff for me now

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Yeah I'm probably going to need professional help with this. It's more complicated than I expected.

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definitely recommend getting help. the penalties for messing up payroll taxes are no joke

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One thing to remember is that Washington also has paid family leave contributions that are separate from regular unemployment insurance. That's another percentage on top of the UI rate.

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Wait, so there are multiple unemployment-related taxes I need to pay?

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Yes - regular UI, paid family medical leave, and industrial insurance if you have employees. It adds up quick.

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The family leave program is relatively new but it's mandatory for most employers now. Around 0.6% split between employer and employee.

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My rate went from 2.7% to 6.8% after I had to lay off some people during covid. It's been brutal trying to get it back down. Washington ESD doesn't make it easy to appeal your rate either.

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Wow that's a huge jump! How long does it take for rates to come back down?

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Still waiting... it's been 3 years. They base it on a rolling average of claims so it takes time.

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Just a heads up that if you're a sole proprietor or LLC member, you might be able to elect unemployment coverage for yourself too. Costs extra but could be worth it if business is unpredictable.

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I hadn't even thought about covering myself! Is that common for small business owners?

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Not super common but it's an option. Gig workers and freelancers can elect coverage too now.

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The whole system seems designed to confuse small business owners. Between federal and state unemployment taxes, workers comp, and everything else, it's overwhelming.

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Tell me about it! I thought I was just paying one unemployment tax but apparently there are several different ones.

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Yeah and Washington ESD doesn't exactly make their employer guides user-friendly either.

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For budgeting purposes, I'd plan on 3-4% of your first $68,500 per employee for unemployment insurance, plus the family leave contribution. Your actual rate will depend on your industry and claim experience over time.

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That helps a lot for planning. Is there anywhere I can find the specific industry rates?

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Washington ESD publishes rate schedules annually. Look for the 'employer tax rates' section on their website.

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also don't forget you have to file quarterly reports even if you have zero employees. learned that the hard way when they hit me with penalties

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Even with zero employees? That seems weird.

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yep, once you register as an employer you have to keep filing even if your payroll is zero. super annoying

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The good news is that if you run a tight ship and don't have people filing claims against you, your rate can get pretty low after a few years. I'm down to 1.8% now after 5 years with no claims.

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That's encouraging! So it really does pay off to be a good employer.

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Absolutely. Proper documentation during terminations is key. Don't give people reasons to file claims.

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I'll keep that in mind. Hopefully I won't need it but good to know there are options.

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Wish I'd known about services like that when I was dealing with my rate appeal. Would have saved me months of frustration.

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One more thing - make sure you understand the difference between state and federal unemployment taxes. FUTA is federal and much lower, but SUTA (state) is where the real cost is.

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So I'm paying both federal and Washington state unemployment taxes?

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Correct. Federal is 6% but you get credits for paying state taxes, so it's usually 0.6% effective rate. State is where the big costs are.

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The system really penalizes small businesses that can't afford HR departments to handle all this stuff properly. One mistake and your rates skyrocket.

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Yeah I'm definitely going to need professional help with payroll. This is way more complex than I thought.

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Smart move. Payroll companies handle all the filings and rate management for you. Worth every penny.

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Don't forget that seasonal businesses have special considerations too. If your restaurant is seasonal, make sure Washington ESD knows so they can adjust your rate calculations appropriately.

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Not seasonal but good to know for the future if I expand to different locations.

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Bottom line is budget at least 4% of your payroll for unemployment costs in Washington, maybe more if you're in a high-turnover industry. Better to overestimate than get surprised.

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That's solid advice. I'd rather budget high and be pleasantly surprised than the other way around.

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Agreed. And remember these rates can change, so review your budget annually when new rate schedules come out.

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just make sure you keep good records of everything. washington esd audits can be brutal if your documentation is sloppy

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What kind of records should I be keeping specifically?

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payroll records, timesheets, separation notices, anything related to employee status changes. keep it all organized

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One last plug for Claimyr - if you do get audited or have rate disputes, being able to actually talk to Washington ESD agents instead of waiting on hold for hours is invaluable. The peace of mind alone is worth it.

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Thanks for all the info everyone. This thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding what I'm getting into.

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Good luck with your restaurant! The unemployment tax system is confusing at first but you'll get the hang of it. Just don't try to wing it - get professional help and keep detailed records.

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Definitely planning to hire a payroll company now. You've all convinced me it's worth the investment.

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