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How much can I make and still get Washington ESD unemployment benefits?

I'm getting some part-time work but don't want to mess up my unemployment claim. How much can I earn per week and still receive Washington ESD benefits? I've heard different amounts from people - some say $200, others mention it's based on your weekly benefit amount. My weekly benefit is $487 so I'm confused about the exact cutoff. Do I need to report every dollar I make even if it's just $20 from a side gig?

You can earn up to your weekly benefit amount minus $5 and still get partial unemployment. So if your weekly benefit is $487, you can make up to $482 before you lose all benefits for that week. But you need to report ALL earnings, even $1.

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Wait, so I can make almost $500 and still get some unemployment? That seems like a lot.

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Yes, but your unemployment payment gets reduced dollar for dollar after you earn more than 25% of your weekly benefit amount. So you won't get the full $487 plus your wages.

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The formula is confusing but basically you can work part-time and still get reduced benefits. Just make sure to report everything when you file your weekly claim or you'll get in trouble later.

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What happens if you forget to report some small amount? Like $30 from babysitting?

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Washington ESD can find out about unreported income and you'll have to pay it back plus penalties. Not worth the risk for any amount.

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I had this same question and spent hours trying to get through to Washington ESD phone lines. Finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got connected to an agent who explained it perfectly. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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How much does that service cost? Seems like something you should be able to find out for free.

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Worth it when you can't get through for weeks. The agent told me exactly how much I could earn without losing benefits completely.

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I might try this since I can never get through either. Thanks for sharing.

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Here's the exact breakdown: You can earn up to 25% of your weekly benefit amount without any reduction. Above that, your benefits get reduced dollar-for-dollar until you hit your weekly benefit amount plus $5. After that, no benefits for that week.

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So for a $487 weekly benefit, 25% would be about $122 with no reduction?

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Exactly. Earn $122 or less, get full $487. Earn $200, get $487 minus $78 (the amount over $122). Earn $492 or more, get nothing that week.

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this is so confusing why cant they just say you can work X hours and make Y dollars instead of all these calculations

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Because everyone has different wage rates. Someone making $10/hour vs $30/hour would have totally different hour limits for the same dollar amount.

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i guess that makes sense but still annoying

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Make sure you understand the difference between gross and net pay too. Washington ESD wants your gross earnings before taxes and deductions.

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Good point, I was thinking about take-home pay. So if I earn $150 gross but only take home $120, I report the $150?

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Yes, always report gross earnings. They don't care what you actually took home after taxes.

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I've been doing gig work and reporting everything. Even made $500 one week and got zero unemployment that week, but at least I stayed eligible for future weeks.

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That's smart. I know people who tried to hide their gig income and got caught during audits. Washington ESD has access to 1099 records.

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Exactly, not worth the risk. Better to be honest and keep your claim in good standing.

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Does anyone know if this applies to self-employment income too? I do some freelance writing and the income varies a lot week to week.

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Yes, same rules apply to self-employment income. Report it the week you earn it, not when you get paid.

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That's going to be tricky since I sometimes don't know exactly what I earned until I invoice at the end of the month.

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Keep detailed records and estimate if needed. You can always adjust later if you reported incorrectly.

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THE SYSTEM IS SO BROKEN! They make it impossible to understand these rules and then penalize you for mistakes. I've been trying to get clarification for weeks!

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Have you tried the Claimyr service? I saw someone mention it earlier and it helped them get through to an agent.

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I'm skeptical of paying for something that should be free but I'm desperate at this point.

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Just want to add that if you work temporary or on-call shifts, you still need to report those earnings even if the hours vary each week.

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What about if you get called in but then sent home after an hour? Do you report that hour?

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Yes, report any time you worked and got paid, even if it was just one hour.

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i made $50 last week doing doordash should i bother reporting it

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YES! Report everything. $50 is well within the allowable amount so you'll still get most of your benefits.

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ok thanks just wanted to make sure

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Pro tip: Keep a spreadsheet tracking all your earnings by week. Makes it much easier when you file your weekly claims and if you ever get audited.

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Good advice. I use a simple notebook but a spreadsheet would be better for calculations.

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I should start doing this. Right now I'm just trying to remember what I made each week.

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Also remember that vacation pay, severance pay, and holiday pay all count as earnings that need to be reported.

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What about unemployment back pay? If I get a lump sum for previous weeks, does that affect future claims?

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No, unemployment benefits don't count as earnings. Only wages from work count.

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Thanks everyone this has been really helpful. I feel much more confident about working part-time while on unemployment now.

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Glad this thread helped! The earnings rules are definitely one of the most confusing parts of unemployment.

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Same here. I was worried I'd lose all my benefits if I worked at all, but now I understand the partial benefit system.

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One last thing - make sure you're still doing your job search activities even if you're working part-time. Those requirements don't go away.

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How many job contacts do you need if you're already working some? Still the same 3 per week?

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Yes, still need to meet the job search requirements unless you're on standby with your employer.

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I used Claimyr last month when I couldn't get through about this exact question. The agent walked me through examples with my specific benefit amount. Really helped me understand the math.

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Did they give you anything in writing or just explain it over the phone?

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Just explained it, but I took notes. The agent was very patient and answered all my questions about different scenarios.

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Remember folks, when in doubt, report the income. It's always better to over-report than under-report with Washington ESD.

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Absolutely. The penalties for unreported income are much worse than temporarily reduced benefits.

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This whole thread has been a huge help. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences and knowledge!

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