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Keisha Williams

Got fired can I collect unemployment Washington ESD benefits?

My supervisor terminated me yesterday after 2 years at a retail job. They said it was for performance issues but I feel like it came out of nowhere. I've never been on unemployment before and don't know if getting fired means I can't get benefits. Can I still file with Washington ESD if I got fired? What do I need to prove? Really stressed about paying rent next month.

Yes, you can potentially collect unemployment even if you were fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD will determine if you were terminated for 'misconduct' or just poor performance. Performance issues usually don't disqualify you, but things like theft, violence, or repeated policy violations would. You should definitely file your claim right away.

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Thank you! That's a relief. They said performance but I honestly think my manager just didn't like me. How do I start the filing process?

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Go to esd.wa.gov and click on 'Apply for Benefits.' You'll need your SSN, employment history for the last 18 months, and reason for separation. File as soon as possible since there's a waiting week.

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same thing happened to me last year, got fired for being late too many times but still got approved for UI benefits. took like 3 weeks though

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3 weeks? I can't wait that long for money. Is there any way to speed it up?

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Unfortunately Washington ESD processing times are what they are. You might want to look into food banks or emergency assistance programs while you wait. Also file for benefits TODAY - every day you delay is money lost.

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Is that legit? Sounds too good to be true. The ESD phone system is designed to keep people out.

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I was skeptical too but it actually worked. Got through to a real person in like 20 minutes instead of calling all day. Worth it when you need answers about eligibility after being fired.

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The key thing is how Washington ESD classifies your termination. 'Misconduct' has a very specific legal definition in Washington state. Simple poor performance, personality conflicts, or not being a good fit typically won't disqualify you. However, if your employer claims you violated company policy willfully or were insubordinate, that could be problematic.

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They never wrote me up or anything, just called me in and said my numbers weren't good enough. Does that help my case?

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That actually sounds positive for your claim. Lack of documented warnings or progressive discipline suggests it wasn't misconduct. Make sure to mention that when you file.

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Exactly right. I work in HR and we have to document everything for misconduct cases. If they just fired you without warnings, that's usually performance-related and won't affect your UI eligibility.

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ugh the whole system is so confusing! I got fired 6 months ago and STILL don't understand if it was misconduct or not. They said I was argumentative but I was just asking questions about new procedures!!! Why can't they just tell you yes or no when you apply???

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Washington ESD has to investigate each case individually. They'll contact your former employer and potentially hold a fact-finding interview with you. The process takes time because they need to gather evidence from both sides.

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well it's been 6 months and I never heard anything back so I guess I'm just screwed

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That doesn't sound right. You should have received some kind of determination. I'd suggest calling ESD to check your claim status - there might be paperwork you missed.

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honestly just file and see what happens. worst case they say no and you appeal. I know people who got fired for way worse stuff and still got benefits

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Good point. I'm probably overthinking this. Going to file tonight after work.

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Make sure you have all your documentation ready when you file. Pay stubs, termination letter if they gave you one, any emails about performance issues. Washington ESD will want to see everything.

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I don't think I got a termination letter. They just told me to clean out my desk. Should I ask for one?

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You can try asking HR, but they're not required to give you one. Just document what they told you verbally about the reason for termination when you file your claim.

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Been there! Got canned from my warehouse job for 'attitude problems' but Washington ESD approved my claim anyway. The adjudicator said my supervisor's complaints were too vague to constitute misconduct. Take good notes about exactly what they told you and why.

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That gives me hope. They were pretty vague with me too, just said I wasn't meeting expectations.

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Vague reasons usually work in your favor. Employers need to prove misconduct with specific examples and evidence.

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Whatever you do, don't wait to file! I made that mistake and lost out on benefits for the weeks I delayed. Even if you're not sure about eligibility, file immediately and let Washington ESD make the determination.

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Good advice. Starting the application right now.

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One thing to be prepared for - if your employer contests your claim, you might have to do a phone interview or even an appeal hearing. Don't let that scare you though. I won my appeal even though my boss tried to claim I was fired for misconduct.

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What was the appeal process like? That sounds intimidating.

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It's basically a conference call with an administrative law judge. You tell your side, your employer tells theirs, and the judge decides. Just be honest and stick to the facts.

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If it gets to that point, definitely use something like Claimyr to reach ESD beforehand. You want to understand exactly what your employer is claiming and prepare your response.

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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS!!! They make it so complicated hoping you'll just give up. File anyway and fight for what you deserve!

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While the system can be frustrating, Washington state actually has pretty worker-friendly unemployment laws compared to other states. Don't get discouraged before you even try.

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Quick question - do you have to be actively looking for work while your claim is being processed? I'm confused about the job search requirements.

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Yes, you need to register with WorkSourceWA and conduct job search activities each week you claim benefits. This applies even while your initial claim is being adjudicated.

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Thanks! I'll get registered with WorkSource right away.

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My cousin got fired from Boeing and had no problems getting unemployment. Performance issues are not the same as misconduct. You should be fine.

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That's encouraging. Boeing is a pretty big company so they probably handle terminations properly.

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I'm going through something similar right now. Got terminated three days ago and filed my claim yesterday. The waiting is the worst part but at least I got the process started.

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Good luck with your claim! At least we're not alone in this situation.

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Exactly! It helps to know others are dealing with the same stress.

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Pro tip: when you file, be very specific about what your employer told you. Don't just say 'performance issues' - explain exactly what they said was wrong. The more detail the better for Washington ESD's review.

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Good point. They said my sales numbers were below target for the past quarter. I'll include those specifics.

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I've helped several friends navigate this process and in my experience, most terminations for poor performance result in approved claims. Washington ESD really does try to distinguish between misconduct and other reasons for termination.

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That's really reassuring. Thank you for sharing your experience.

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UPDATE: Just wanted to say I filed my claim and got confirmation that it's being processed. Thanks everyone for the encouragement and advice. Fingers crossed!

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Great job getting it filed! Now the waiting game begins, but you've taken the most important step.

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If you need to check on the status or have questions during processing, remember you can use Claimyr to actually reach someone at ESD instead of waiting on hold for hours.

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One last thing - make sure you continue filing your weekly claims even while the initial determination is pending. You can't get retroactive payments for weeks you didn't file.

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Good catch! I'll make sure to file every week starting this Sunday.

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