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Got determination letter in SAW after denied claim - normal ESD procedure?

I'm pretty confused about something that just happened with my ESD account. I filed an unemployment claim a while back, but it was denied (something about not having enough hours in my base year). I thought that was the end of it, but today I logged into my SecureAccess Washington account and found a new determination of benefits letter. Why would they send me this when my original claim was denied? Is this just standard procedure even though I never received any benefits from that claim? Has anyone else experienced this? Should I be worried or is this just how their system works?

Rajan Walker

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this happened to me last year!! the system is super confusing. i think they automatically generate those letters even when ur claim is denied. did u apply for anything else recently? sometimes they reopen old claims if u contact them for any reason too

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No, I haven't applied for anything else or contacted them at all since the denial. That's why it seemed so strange to get this letter out of nowhere.

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This is actually normal ESD procedure. Even when claims are denied, they're required to issue a monetary determination that shows what your weekly benefit amount would have been if you had qualified. It's confusing because the letter often looks like you've been approved when you actually haven't. Check if the letter specifically mentions your disqualification reason (insufficient hours) somewhere. If you want to be 100% sure about your current claim status, you should call ESD directly.

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Thank you for explaining! I'll look through the letter again to see if it mentions the disqualification. I tried calling ESD but got stuck in the automated system for 45 minutes before getting disconnected.

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Ev Luca

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The ESD system is a JOKE!! I got 5 different determinations over 3 weeks and NONE of them matched. One said I qualified, one said I didn't, one had the wrong employer listed. Total mess. Don't assume anything until you talk to an actual human being there.

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Avery Davis

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While the system can be confusing, there's actually a logical explanation for multiple determinations. Each determination addresses different aspects of your claim - monetary eligibility, job separation reason, able and available status, etc. It's not necessarily that they're contradicting each other, but rather addressing different qualifying factors. I'd recommend reading each carefully to understand what specific aspect of your claim they're addressing.

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Collins Angel

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Just want to add - check if the letter mentions "redetermination" anywhere. Sometimes ESD reviews denied claims automatically if new wage info becomes available from employers who report quarterly. If one of your employers reported additional hours after your initial denial, the system might have automatically recalculated your eligibility. This happened to my brother - denied initially but approved 2 months later after employer reporting caught up.

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That's interesting! I'll look for that term. I did work for a small company that was sometimes slow with their reporting, so maybe that's what happened. Would explain the random timing.

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Marcelle Drum

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BTW I had somethin similar happen but it was just a wage correction from my employer that ended up making no difference to my claim. ESD still sent me a whole new determination letter even though nothing actually changed with my eligibility lol. Wasted like an hour trying to figure out what was different.

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Avery Davis

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I'd like to clarify something important: when you receive a monetary determination after a denied claim, you should check two key things: 1. Look at the "Effective Date" on the new determination - if it's different from your original claim date, it could be a completely new claim period being evaluated. 2. Review the "Potential Benefits" section - even if it shows a weekly benefit amount, this doesn't mean you're eligible. It just shows what you would receive IF you qualified based on wages alone. The monetary determination is just one part of eligibility. If you were denied for insufficient hours initially, but this new determination shows different hours/wages, you might want to check if something changed in your wage record. Don't ignore this letter - either way, it's an official determination that could be appealed if incorrect.

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Thank you for the detailed explanation. The effective date is the same as my original claim, but the letter does show a weekly benefit amount now when the first determination didn't. I'll double-check all my documentation and see if anything else changed.

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Collins Angel

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One more thing to consider - if you applied for regular UI and were denied, but might qualify for another program like PIT (Paid Internship Training) or certain trade-specific benefits, the system sometimes automatically evaluates you for those. The new determination might be for a different type of benefit program entirely.

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I didn't know that was possible! I was in a training program briefly last year, though I didn't mention that in my application. Maybe that triggered something in their system?

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If you participated in an approved training program, that could definitely be relevant. ESD has several different programs with different eligibility requirements. The Commissioner Approved Training (CAT) program, for example, has different qualifying criteria than regular UI. I'd recommend reviewing all sections of the determination letter to see if it mentions any specific program name or type of benefit.

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