ESD denying claims due to mandatory union training - help needed!
I'm in a pretty frustrating situation with my unemployment benefits. I'm part of a construction union that requires mandatory training classes every 3-4 months (safety certifications, continuing ed, etc). These classes are unpaid but required to stay in good standing. When I file for unemployment during these class weeks, my claims keep getting denied with a message saying I'm "not available for work" even though this is a standard part of my industry! I've tried explaining this in the comments section when filing weekly claims but nothing helps. Has anyone else in a union dealt with this? How did you get your claims approved during required training periods? I've tried calling ESD 14 times this week and either get disconnected or told the wait time is 4+ hours. Our bills are piling up and I'm getting desperate.
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Ingrid Larsson
Ugh, the ESD system is totally broken when it comes to union trades! I had the same issue last year with my electrical apprenticeship classes. The trick is you need to still mark yourself as "able and available" for work even during your training weeks, then explain the situation in the adjudication interview (which they'll eventually schedule). DON'T write about the training in your weekly claim comments - that's what's triggering the automatic denial. Also, you need to document that the training is REQUIRED for your profession.
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Tyrone Johnson
•Thanks for the tip! So I should just answer "yes" to being available even during training weeks? Won't that get me in trouble later for misrepresenting my availability? I'm worried about getting hit with an overpayment notice down the road.
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Carlos Mendoza
I work with the carpenters union and went through this exact scenario. The key is understanding how ESD classifies "approved training" vs. regular unavailability. You need to apply for Training Benefits (TB) status before your next class period. Here's what to do: 1. Download and complete the "Training Benefits Application" from the ESD website 2. Get a letter from your union confirming these classes are mandatory for continued employment 3. Submit both through your eServices account under "Upload a Document" 4. Call and speak to a claims specialist to flag your account for TB review Unfortunately, your previous denied weeks might be hard to recover unless you appeal each one separately. The system isn't set up well for union training situations, but the TB program exists specifically for cases like yours.
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Zainab Mahmoud
•Im in a similar sitiation with plmbers union and this training benefits thing is news to me!! Do u know if theres a deadline to apply for it? My class is starting next week on Monday and i already got dinied twice in the past.
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Ava Williams
those ESD ppl dont care about union workers, ive been through this 4 times now and still get denied every time I have my hvac certification classes. just keep filing appeals for every week they deny you. eventually they'll get tired of processing them and approve you lol
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Tyrone Johnson
•I'm definitely going to appeal. How long did the appeal process take for you? Did you have to attend a hearing or just submit paperwork?
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Raj Gupta
I was in exactly your shoes last year with my IBEW apprenticeship classes. After weeks of frustration, I finally got through to someone at ESD using Claimyr (claimyr.com). They have this service that gets you through to an actual ESD agent instead of waiting on hold forever. There's a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 The agent I spoke with immediately understood the union training situation and transferred me to a specialist who fixed my claims on the spot and explained I needed to apply for something called Commissioner Approved Training status. Saved me from missing a mortgage payment.
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Lena Müller
•does this claimyr thing actually work? seems kinda sketchy to use a third party when dealing with something as sensitive as unemployment claims...
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Raj Gupta
•It's just a call-back service that holds your place in line and calls you when they get an agent. You still talk directly to ESD. Worked for me when I was at my wit's end, but yeah, I was hesitant at first too.
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TechNinja
Hi there! I'm a workforce navigator who works with union training programs. What you're experiencing is actually a common issue. Your union training should qualify under what ESD calls "Commissioner Approved Training" or CAT (different from the regular Training Benefits program mentioned above). For union-required training specifically: 1. Complete the "Training Benefits/Commissioner Approved Training Application" (ESD form 5329) 2. Have your union representative complete the bottom portion confirming this is required training 3. Submit it BEFORE your training begins (ideally 1-2 weeks prior) 4. Continue answering "YES" to being able and available for work on weekly claims If you've already been denied for past weeks, you'll need to file an appeal within 30 days of each denial letter. The appeal process is straightforward - you explain that the training is a requirement of your industry and employment. About 75% of these specific types of appeals are successful. Hope this helps!
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Tyrone Johnson
•This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I've just downloaded the 5329 form and will get my union rep to sign it tomorrow. Do you know if I should stop mentioning the training in my weekly claim comments section? Someone above suggested that might be triggering automatic denials.
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TechNinja
•Yes, stop mentioning the training in your weekly claims until your CAT application is approved. The system automatically flags claims with training mentions for review, which is causing your denials. Once you have CAT approval, then you can mention it if needed. Glad I could help!
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Zainab Mahmoud
im confused bout the difference between training benefits and commissioner aproved training??? are they the same thing or different programs??
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Carlos Mendoza
•They're related but different: - Training Benefits (TB) is for longer-term training programs (like going back to school for 6+ months) - Commissioner Approved Training (CAT) is for shorter, occupation-required training like your union classes For union mandatory classes, you want the CAT option. The application form is the same (form 5329) but you'll check different boxes depending on which program you're applying for.
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Ingrid Larsson
DONT FORGET to keep filing your weekly claims even while this is getting sorted out!!! Even if they're getting denied right now. You can always appeal and get backpay later, but if you stop filing weekly claims, you can NEVER get those weeks back no matter what.
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Tyrone Johnson
•Good reminder, thanks! I'm definitely going to keep filing every week, even though it's discouraging to see all these denials pile up.
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Ava Williams
anybody else notice how the esd website is down like every other weekend for "maintenance" right when most people have time to file their claims??? seems REAL convenient for them
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Lena Müller
•Omg yes!!! I thought I was the only one noticing this! Always down Sunday mornings when I try to file 🙄
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Keisha Thompson
Update: I got approved! For anyone with this same issue, here's what worked for me. I followed the advice here about the Commissioner Approved Training application AND I was able to reach an ESD specialist who flagged my account properly. The key was getting my union to provide a detailed letter explaining why these classes are mandatory for ongoing employment eligibility. All my previously denied weeks are being reconsidered now. Thanks everyone for your help!
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Ingrid Larsson
•That's awesome! Did they tell you if you need to reapply for CAT status for your next training period or if it carries over for future mandatory classes?
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Keisha Thompson
•The agent said my CAT approval is good for 12 months, but I should notify them of specific training dates as they come up. Also, I should still answer YES to being able and available for work during those weeks, which seems counterintuitive but that's their process.
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