ESD denied benefits claiming I 'quit' but I'm actually on suspension - employer lying?
I'm in total shock right now after checking my ESD account. Just received a determination letter saying my benefits are DENIED because my employer told ESD I voluntarily quit without good cause. This is absolutely false! I was placed on suspension 6 weeks ago and am STILL suspended - never once did I quit or even hint at quitting. I've been waiting this whole time to see if they'll bring me back or terminate me officially. Can an employer just straight-up lie to ESD like this? There's zero documentation of me quitting because I NEVER QUIT. No resignation letter, no verbal resignation, nothing. How are they allowed to make these claims without providing evidence? I need to appeal this immediately but don't know where to start. Has anyone dealt with something like this before? Do I need to get a lawyer involved? I've already been without income for 6 weeks and now ESD is saying I'm not eligible for benefits I desperately need because of something that never happened!
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Isabella Oliveira
apply for reconsideration RIGHT AWAY. dont wait. you only have like 30 days from that determination letter to file it. happened to my sister last month. her boss claimed she was fired for misconduct but she was actually laid off. its surprisingly common.
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Malik Thomas
•Thanks for the quick response. Do you know if she won her appeal? I'm afraid they'll just take my employer's word over mine.
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Ravi Kapoor
Oh my gosh, I'm dealing with literally the EXACT same situation right now!!! My company put me on "administrative leave" in January, then told ESD I quit when I filed for benefits. It's absolutely infuriating! Did you save any emails or documents from when they suspended you? Anything showing you were suspended and not quitting will be GOLD for your appeal. Also, are they still paying for your benefits like health insurance? If yes, that's another proof you didn't quit (employers don't usually keep paying benefits for people who quit).
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Malik Thomas
•I do have the original suspension email and text messages asking when I can return to work. They're still covering my health insurance too, which is a great point! I never thought about using that as evidence.
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Freya Larsen
ESD adjudicator here. This is a fairly common issue, and you absolutely should appeal this determination immediately. You have 30 days from the date on the determination letter (not from when you received it) to file your appeal. For your appeal, you'll need to provide evidence that you were suspended rather than having quit. Useful evidence includes: 1. Any written communication about your suspension 2. Evidence of continued benefits enrollment 3. Any communication where you asked about returning to work 4. Witness statements from coworkers (if applicable) 5. Time cards or schedules showing you were removed from the schedule The burden of proof in quit cases falls on the employer. They must demonstrate that you voluntarily left employment. In a hearing, they would need to provide evidence of your resignation, which you state doesn't exist. File your appeal online through your eServices account or by mail using the appeal information included with your determination letter.
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Malik Thomas
•Thank you so much for this detailed information. I'll gather all these documents right away. One question - should I continue filing weekly claims while the appeal is pending?
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Freya Larsen
Yes, absolutely continue filing your weekly claims while your appeal is pending. If you win your appeal, you'll only be paid for weeks that you properly filed a claim. Missing weeks can't be recovered later, even if your appeal is successful.
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GalacticGladiator
LMAO the system is rigged against workers man. My manager did something similar except they told ESD I was fired for misconduct when actually I was laid off with 15 other people. These companies have teams of HR people who know exactly how to game the system to avoid their UI taxes going up. And we're supposed to fight this alone?? Such BS
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Omar Zaki
•I know it feels that way sometimes, but in my experience, ESD actually does side with workers when there's clear evidence. The problem is that most people don't know how to properly present their case or give up after the initial denial. Always appeal!! Almost 40% of denials get reversed on appeal.
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Chloe Taylor
I went thru this last year! My employer said I quit but I was actually told not to come back until they "figured things out" which never happened. For your appeal make sure you have: - The suspension notice - Any texts/emails about when you could come back - Phone records if they called you about the suspension - Any witness statements Mine took foreverrrrr to resolve and I couldn't get anyone on the phone at ESD for weeks.
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Malik Thomas
•This is so helpful, thank you! Did you eventually win your appeal? I'm worried about how long this might drag out.
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Chloe Taylor
Yes I did win but it took 8 weeks! They eventually ruled my "suspension" was actually a termination and I got all my back benefits in one big payment. Be prepared to wait tho, its so stressful.
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Diego Flores
If you're struggling to get through to ESD about your appeal (which you absolutely should file ASAP), I found a service called Claimyr that got me through to an actual ESD agent in about 25 minutes when I was dealing with my appeal last month. Normally I'd be on hold for hours or just get disconnected. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 and their website is claimyr.com. It was honestly a lifesaver for getting my appeal information straightened out quickly rather than waiting weeks for email responses.
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Malik Thomas
•Wow, that's good to know. The few times I've tried calling ESD it's been impossible to get through. I'll check this out if I can't get answers about my appeal status. Thanks!
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Omar Zaki
I've handled several unemployment appeals for clients in similar situations. Here's my advice: 1. File your appeal immediately through eServices or by mail 2. Document EVERYTHING that shows you didn't quit 3. Request a copy of your employer's response to ESD through a records request 4. Continue filing weekly claims without interruption 5. If you have an appeal hearing scheduled, prepare thoroughly In Washington, if you're suspended indefinitely without pay, that's often considered a "constructive discharge" - meaning you didn't quit, but the employer effectively terminated your employment by suspending you without a return date. Don't panic - ESD appeals are decided based on evidence, and if your employer has no proof you quit, you have a strong case.
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GalacticGladiator
•wait you can request a copy of what the employer said about you?? how do you do that? my determination letter was super vague
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Omar Zaki
Yes, you can request your claim file by submitting a public records request to ESD. Go to esd.wa.gov, search for "public records request" and fill out the form. Specify that you want all documents related to your claim, including employer statements. It may take a few weeks, but you'll get copies of everything your employer submitted.
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Isabella Oliveira
yeah my sister won her appeal but it took 2 months and was super stressful. she had to have a phone hearing and everything. the judge person asked the employer to provide proof she was fired for misconduct and they couldnt show anything so she won. but ya gotta stay on top of it and keep filing claims every week.
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Malik Thomas
Thank you everyone for the helpful advice! I submitted my appeal this morning through eServices and uploaded the suspension email, texts asking about return date, and proof my benefits are still active. I'll keep filing weekly claims and try to stay patient through this process. It helps knowing others have gone through this and won their appeals.
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Freya Larsen
•Excellent! One more tip: keep a log of all communications with both your employer and ESD during this time. Note dates, times, who you spoke with, and what was discussed. This can be very helpful during an appeal hearing if the timeline becomes important.
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