ESD appeal hearing tomorrow - employer hasn't confirmed attendance - what happens?
I have my telephone appeal hearing with OAH scheduled for tomorrow at 2pm about my denied unemployment benefits. My former employer is the one who contested my initial claim, saying I quit voluntarily when I was actually laid off due to 'restructuring.' I just realized they're supposed to call in too, but my former manager told me yesterday they might not be able to make it. Does anyone know what happens if they don't show up? Will this help my case or will the judge just reschedule? I've been waiting almost 8 weeks for this hearing and really need this resolved. The notification letter says something about 'evidence and testimony' but doesn't clearly explain what happens if they're absent. Really stressed and could use some quick advice before tomorrow!
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StarSailor
This actually worked in my favor when it happened to me last year! If your employer doesn't show up for the hearing, the judge only has your testimony to consider. Since they're the ones who contested your claim, their absence can significantly weaken their position. The judge will likely proceed with the hearing as scheduled and make a decision based on available evidence. Make sure you're prepared to clearly explain why you believe you were laid off rather than voluntarily quitting. Have any documentation ready - emails about restructuring, separation paperwork, etc. The judge will ask you specific questions about the circumstances of your separation from employment. Be factual and avoid emotional statements about the company. Also, be sure to call in 5-10 minutes early and wait quietly. They sometimes start these hearings a bit early if everyone's available.
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Zainab Ibrahim
•Thanks so much for the detailed response! That makes me feel a lot better. I do have some emails mentioning the restructuring and a text from my manager saying 'sorry about having to let you go.' Do you think I should have these ready to email if the judge asks for them? Or will they just want me to describe them?
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Connor O'Brien
im my experence if they dont show up u pretty much win by default.... the judge asked me my side of story and thats it, super easy. took like 15min total. good luck!!
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Yara Sabbagh
•This isn't always true! My employer didn't show up but I still lost my appeal because they had submitted written testimony beforehand. Don't get your hopes up too much - it's not an automatic win.
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Keisha Johnson
The Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) will almost certainly proceed with the hearing even if your employer doesn't participate. Here's what typically happens: 1. The judge will note on the record that your employer was properly notified but failed to appear 2. The hearing will continue with your testimony and any evidence you present 3. The judge will consider any documents your employer may have submitted prior to the hearing (very important to know - check if they sent anything!) 4. You'll still need to meet your burden of proof that the separation wasn't voluntary While an employer's absence doesn't automatically guarantee you'll win, it does mean they won't be present to rebut your testimony. The judge will make a decision based on the preponderance of evidence available. Be ready to clearly explain the circumstances around your separation, focusing on facts rather than emotions. And remember, the burden of proof for showing misconduct falls on the employer - if they're claiming you quit voluntarily but aren't there to testify to that fact, it strengthens your position significantly.
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Zainab Ibrahim
•This is really helpful, thank you. Do you know if I can find out before the hearing whether they submitted any documents? I'm worried they might have sent in something that contradicts what actually happened, and I won't have a chance to respond to it if I don't know what they said.
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Paolo Rizzo
I was in this EXACT situation in February! Let me tell you what happened to me... My employer contested my claim saying I was fired for misconduct (completely untrue), but then nobody from HR showed up for the hearing!!! The judge asked me a bunch of questions about what happened, and I just told my side honestly. Since nobody was there to contradict me, the judge ruled in my favor and I got all my backpay about 10 days later. $5,780 all at once! The key thing the judge told me was that since the employer contests the claim, the burden is on THEM to prove misconduct. If they don't show up, they can't do that! One thing though - make sure you call in on time. I've heard they'll dismiss your case if you're late, even by a few minutes. Good luck!!
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Zainab Ibrahim
•Wow, that's amazing! So glad it worked out for you. I'm definitely going to call in early - I have a reminder set for 20 minutes before so I have plenty of time. Did they just direct deposit your backpay, or was there something else you had to do after winning the appeal?
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QuantumQuest
Don't get too excited yet! I won my hearing when my employer didn't show, but they appealed THAT decision to the Commissioner's Review Office and I had to go through another 6 weeks of waiting. Make sure you have all your documentation ready and keep filing your weekly claims while you wait for the decision.
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Keisha Johnson
•This is an important point. The employer has the right to petition for review of the ALJ's decision within 30 days. While Commissioner reviews don't overturn ALJ decisions very often (especially on factual determinations), it can extend the process. Definitely continue filing weekly claims during this period.
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Yara Sabbagh
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Amina Sy
•does this actually work?? ive been trying to call esd for 2 weeks about my adjudication and keep getting hung up on after waiting for like an hour
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Yara Sabbagh
•Yes, it worked for me! I was skeptical too but was desperate after trying for days. The system kept track of my place in line so I didn't have to keep calling back. When I finally got through, the ESD agent had no idea I'd used a service to connect - it was just like a normal call from their perspective.
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Paolo Rizzo
Whatever you do, DON'T MISS that hearing call!!! My cousin missed his because his phone died and they ruled against him automatically. They're super strict about that stuff.
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Connor O'Brien
sometimes they let u do a reschedule if u have a good reason, just saying
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Zainab Ibrahim
UPDATE: Just had my hearing and wanted to let everyone know what happened! My employer actually DID show up - it was someone from HR I've never even met before. But the good news is the judge ruled in my favor right on the call! The HR person couldn't provide any evidence that I quit voluntarily, and I had those emails showing the restructuring that I mentioned. The judge said I should see the decision letter in 7-10 days and then my payments should start processing if nothing else comes up. Thanks everyone for your help and advice!
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StarSailor
•Congratulations! Make sure you keep filing your weekly claims while you wait for the payments to start. It can sometimes take an extra week or two for them to process all the back payments after the decision is issued.
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Zainab Ibrahim
•Thank you! Yes, I've been filing every week since I initially applied. Can't wait to finally get this resolved. Such a weight off my shoulders!
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