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ESD appeal hearing timeline - how long after submitting paperwork?

I submitted my appeal through ESD's website last Thursday after being denied benefits (they claimed I quit my restaurant job but I was definitely laid off when they reduced staff). It's been 6 days and I haven't heard ANYTHING back except the automated confirmation email. Does anyone know how long it typically takes to get an actual OAH hearing scheduled? My rent is due in 3 weeks and I'm seriously freaking out about timing. The denial letter mentioned something about a "determination letter" but I'm not clear if that's different from what I already got? This is my first time dealing with appeals and I'm completely lost!!

Freya Thomsen

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The Office of Administrative Hearings (OAH) process typically takes 3-5 weeks from the date you filed your appeal to get a hearing scheduled. You should receive a Notice of Hearing in the mail with the exact date and time, usually at least 7-10 days before your actual hearing date. Make sure your mailing address is up-to-date in the system. You should continue filing your weekly claims during this time even though you won't receive benefits until the appeal is decided in your favor.

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NebulaNomad

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3-5 WEEKS?! I had no idea it would take that long. So I probably won't even have my hearing before rent is due. Do they ever expedite for financial hardship?

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Omar Fawaz

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mine took almost 2 months last year lol good luck

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NebulaNomad

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TWO MONTHS?? Oh my god I'm going to be homeless before this gets resolved...

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Chloe Martin

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When I went through the appeal process last fall, it took about 4 weeks to get my hearing scheduled. The important thing to remember is that you need to gather ALL your evidence now - pay stubs, any emails or texts about your separation, witness contact info - anything that proves you were laid off rather than quitting. The determination letter is the denial you already received. The Notice of Hearing is what you're waiting for now, which will come from OAH, not ESD directly. Keep filing your weekly claims! If you win your appeal, they'll pay all the back weeks you claimed during the wait.

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NebulaNomad

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Thank you for clarifying about the determination letter vs notice of hearing! I was confused about that. I'm going to start collecting all my evidence right away. My manager actually texted me about the layoff so I have that saved.

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Diego Rojas

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u shud try calling them to check status... sometimes they "lose" appeals or it sits on someones desk 4ever

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This is actually good advice. I had to call constantly to get my appeal moving. I'd suggest using Claimyr to get through to an actual ESD agent quickly - it's the only way I finally got answers about my appeal status. Their website is claimyr.com and they have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 They helped me get through when I kept getting disconnected for weeks. The agent I reached was able to verify my appeal was in the system and gave me a timeframe. Saved me a ton of stress wondering if my paperwork was lost.

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StarSeeker

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The real issue isnt even the hearing date, its how long after the hearing until you get a DECISION. My hearing was quick (like 30 min phone call) but then it took another 3 weeks to get the judges decision!!! Even when I won it took another week for ESD to start paying me. The whole process took like 9 weeks from appeal to money in my account. The system is designed to make people give up, I swear.

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NebulaNomad

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Are you serious?? Another 3 weeks AFTER the hearing?? I had no idea this process was so long. I'm going to have to ask family for a loan at this point. This is ridiculous.

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Omar Fawaz

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yup happened to me too. system is broken

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Sean O'Donnell

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Make sure you have a clear phone line for your hearing! I missed my call because I was in a bad reception area, and they rescheduled me which added another 3 weeks to the process. Also, be very organized with your evidence and practice explaining your situation clearly and calmly. The judge will appreciate it if you're concise and stick to the facts. I'd recommend writing down a timeline of events related to your separation from employment, with specific dates if possible. When presenting your case, focus on demonstrating that you were laid off rather than quitting. If your former employer argues against you, don't interrupt them - you'll get your chance to respond. Keep filing your weekly claims during this entire process. If you win, you'll get retroactive payment for all weeks claimed.

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NebulaNomad

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This is really helpful advice, thank you. I'll definitely prepare a timeline with dates. Will they notify me in advance about the phone hearing or do they just call out of the blue?

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Sean O'Donnell

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You'll get a Notice of Hearing in the mail that gives you the exact date and time for your phone hearing. Usually it comes about 1-2 weeks before the actual hearing date. The notice will also include instructions for submitting evidence before your hearing.

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Chloe Martin

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Also, in case it helps ease your stress a little - if you win your appeal, you will receive all back payments for the weeks you've been claiming. While it doesn't help with immediate bills, you will eventually get the full amount you're entitled to if the judge rules in your favor. I'd recommend checking your appeal status on the OAH portal as well: https://www.oah.wa.gov/ They have a separate system from ESD where you can sometimes see updates on your case status.

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NebulaNomad

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I didn't know there was a separate OAH portal! I've only been checking the ESD website. I'll look at that today, thank you.

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Freya Thomsen

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One important thing to remember is that if your employer doesn't show up for the hearing (which happens fairly often), that significantly increases your chances of winning. But don't count on that - still be fully prepared. Also, make sure you understand exactly why ESD denied your claim. In your case, it sounds like they believe you voluntarily quit rather than being laid off. You'll need to focus specifically on proving that aspect of your case with documentation or witness statements if possible.

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NebulaNomad

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Yes, the denial letter specifically said I voluntarily quit without good cause. But I have a text from my manager saying they were reducing staff and my position was being eliminated. Hopefully that's enough evidence?

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Freya Thomsen

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That text message is EXCELLENT evidence. Make sure you have it easily accessible during your hearing and mention it early in your testimony. That kind of documentation is exactly what judges look for.

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