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ESD Petition For Review filed after employer missed appeal hearing - will I lose benefits?

I've been receiving unemployment benefits for about 6 weeks now after being laid off. My former company claimed it was for misconduct, but ESD initially approved my claim. Then my ex-employer appealed the decision and we had a scheduled hearing date with an Administrative Law Judge. The day of the hearing comes, and their witness/representative completely no-shows! The ALJ dismissed their appeal since no one showed up to present their case. I thought that was the end of it, but yesterday I received mail saying they've filed a 'Petition For Review' with the Commissioner's Review Office trying to get another chance to cut off my benefits. They're claiming their representative had a medical emergency and couldn't attend or something. I'm freaking out a bit - has anyone gone through this Petition For Review process? Do they usually grant these second chances? Will my benefits keep coming while this is pending? I really can't afford to suddenly lose this income while I'm still job searching.

Yes, I went through this exact situation last year. The good news is that your benefits WILL continue during the Petition For Review process. The Commissioner's Office treats the ALJ's decision as valid until they explicitly overturn it, which means you keep getting paid. As for whether they'll grant the review - it depends on their reason. Medical emergencies are considered 'good cause' for missing hearings, so they might get another hearing. However, they have to provide documentation of the emergency. When this happened in my case, the Commissioner's Office granted a new hearing but then I still won the second time around.

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That's somewhat reassuring about the benefits continuing. Do you know how long the Commissioner takes to decide whether they'll grant a new hearing? And did you hire an attorney for the second hearing?

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The Petition For Review process typically takes 30-45 days for a decision. The Commissioner will review the case file, any written arguments submitted by either party, and determine if there was good cause for the missed hearing. If they grant a new hearing, you'll want to prepare thoroughly. Get all your documentation in order showing you were laid off rather than fired for misconduct. This includes any performance reviews, emails, termination paperwork, etc. For the second hearing, you're not required to have an attorney, but it can be helpful. WorkSource offices sometimes have free legal resources for unemployment hearings.

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i didnt get a lawyer for my hearing and totally regretted it. the employer had one and they knew all the unemployment laws and i got confused by their questions. spend the money if u can afford it

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JUST WENT THRU THIS!!! My former employer missed the hearing and then filed a petition saying there was a "scheduling confusion" on their end. Guess what? THE COMMISSIONER GRANTED THEM A NEW HEARING!! I was so mad because I thought it was done with. The whole system is rigged to favor employers!!! My only advice is to start gathering EVERY BIT of evidence now. Emails, texts, performance reviews - anything showing you weren't fired for misconduct. The second hearing was way more intense and they came prepared with a lawyer and 3 witnesses.

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Oh no, that's exactly what I'm afraid of! Did your benefits continue during the whole process? And what was the result of your second hearing? This is so stressful.

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Something nobody has mentioned yet - you can (and should) file a response to their Petition For Review. You'll receive papers explaining the petition process, and there should be instructions on how to submit your own written argument about why they shouldn't get a second hearing. I'd suggest focusing on how you prepared for the hearing, took time off work/job searching, and were present as required. Emphasize the hardship of delaying the process further. Medical emergencies happen, but they should have to provide some evidence of it.

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I didn't realize I could submit a response! The papers did come with some forms but I was so stressed I haven't read through everything carefully. This is really helpful, thank you. I'm definitely going to write something opposing a new hearing.

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Call ESD to check on your case! O wait...good luck with that, lol. Been trying for WEEKS to reach a human at ESD about my adjudication issue. always busy signals or get hung up on after waiting for hours. total nightmare trying to reach them!

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I was in the same boat trying to get info on my appeal case. I finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an ESD agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3. It was super helpful because I needed specific information about my appeal status that wasn't on the website. Might be worth it in your situation to get accurate info about your specific case.

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does anyone kno if u can get unemployment back pay if u win the second hearing? my friend lost benefits during her appeal process and im wondering if they give u back pay when u win

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Yes, if you win a second hearing after benefits were stopped, you would receive back payments for all eligible weeks during the gap period. However, in this specific situation, benefits should continue during the Petition For Review process unless there's some other disqualifying factor.

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One additional point - document EVERYTHING now. If you have phone conversations with ESD representatives about your case, write down who you spoke with, the date/time, and what they told you. Same goes for any conversations with your former employer. In my second hearing, these notes were extremely valuable as evidence. Also, you might want to request your complete claim file from ESD through their records department. This will show you exactly what your employer is claiming and help you prepare your case if they do get a new hearing.

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That's great advice. I've started a folder with all the paperwork I've received so far, but I'll definitely request my full claim file. Do you know how long that typically takes to receive? I'm worried the Commissioner might make a decision before I can get all the documentation I need.

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@OP - To answer your question from my earlier comment - yes, my benefits continued the whole time between hearings. The second hearing went badly for me because I wasn't prepared enough and didn't understand some of the legal terminology their lawyer was using. They got my benefits reversed and I had to pay back $4,800!!! Now I'm appealing THAT decision to Superior Court but it's been a nightmare. Don't be me - prepare way better than I did if you get a second hearing.

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I'm so sorry that happened to you! $4,800 is a huge amount to have to pay back. I'm definitely going to look into getting some legal help if they grant another hearing. This whole process is so confusing and stressful.

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One more thing - if the Commissioner does grant a new hearing, you'll receive a Notice of Hearing with the date, time, and instructions. Make sure you don't miss the deadline to submit any new evidence before the hearing. There's usually a cutoff date for both parties to submit documents, and anything submitted after that might not be considered. In the meantime, keep doing your weekly claims and job search activities as required. The last thing you want is to be disqualified for some unrelated reason while fighting this battle.

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good point about the weekly claims! my cousin got so stressed about her appeal that she forgot to do a weekly claim and lost a week of benefits. the system is so unforgiving!!!!

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