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Oscar Murphy

Does collecting Washington ESD unemployment affect your social security benefits?

I'm 62 and thinking about filing for unemployment after being laid off from my warehouse job last month. I've been working for 35 years and was planning to start collecting social security in a few years. My neighbor said that getting unemployment benefits could mess up my social security somehow? Is this true? I don't want to do anything that would hurt my future retirement benefits. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

No, unemployment benefits from Washington ESD don't affect your Social Security retirement benefits at all. They're completely separate systems - unemployment is administered by the state and Social Security is federal. Your unemployment payments won't reduce your future Social Security benefits.

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That's a relief! I was really worried about this. So there's no interaction between the two systems?

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Correct, they don't interact. Your Social Security benefits are based on your lifetime earnings record, and unemployment doesn't count as earnings for SS purposes.

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I went through this exact situation 3 years ago when I was 61. Filed for Washington ESD benefits after my company downsized, collected for about 6 months, then found another job. When I applied for Social Security at 65, there were no issues whatsoever. The unemployment didn't show up anywhere on my SS records.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That makes me feel much better about filing.

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Same here - collected UI at 59 and it had zero impact on my social security when I retired at 67.

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Just to clarify one thing - if you're already collecting Social Security retirement benefits (not just planning to), then working and earning unemployment could potentially affect those current benefits due to the earnings test. But since you're not collecting SS yet, this doesn't apply to you.

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Good point - I'm not collecting SS yet, just planning to in the future. So I should be fine.

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Yeah that's different - the earnings test only matters if you're already getting SS payments before full retirement age.

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Never heard of that service before, but the phone situation with Washington ESD is definitely frustrating. Did it actually work?

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Yeah it worked great - got through in like 10 minutes instead of hours of calling. Worth it when you need real answers about your benefits.

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Wait I'm confused - are we talking about Social Security retirement or Social Security disability? Because I thought there might be different rules for disability benefits?

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OP mentioned planning to collect SS in a few years at age 62, so they're talking about retirement benefits. Disability has different rules but wasn't what they asked about.

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Oh ok that makes sense, I was getting confused about which type of benefits we were discussing.

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The only thing to keep in mind is that unemployment benefits ARE taxable income, so you'll need to report them on your tax return. But again, this doesn't affect your Social Security benefit calculation.

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Good to know about the taxes. I wasn't sure about that part either.

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Right - they'll send you a 1099-G form at tax time showing how much you received in UI benefits.

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Just file for your unemployment benefits! You paid into the system through your payroll taxes, so you're entitled to collect when you're laid off. Don't let unfounded worries about Social Security stop you from getting help you need right now.

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You're absolutely right. I've been putting it off because of this concern but I should just file already.

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Exactly - those are benefits you earned through working. No reason not to use them when you need them.

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I think there might be some confusion because if you're working while collecting unemployment (like part-time work), those earnings could potentially affect Social Security if you're already collecting it. But pure unemployment benefits without any work income don't interact with SS at all.

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Good clarification - it's the EARNINGS that matter for Social Security, not the unemployment benefits themselves.

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That makes sense. Since I'm not working at all right now, just unemployment benefits, I should be fine.

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FYI - your Social Security benefits are calculated based on your highest 35 years of earnings. Since you've worked 35 years already, unemployment won't hurt that calculation even if it somehow counted (which it doesn't).

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That's actually really helpful to know about how the calculation works. Thanks!

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Yep, and if you work more years after your 35 highest, those can replace lower-earning years and actually increase your benefit.

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omg I was worried about this same thing when I got laid off last year!! turns out it was nothing to worry about at all

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Yeah seems like it's a common worry but not actually a problem. Glad to hear your experience too.

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The Washington ESD website has some info about this too, but honestly their site is kind of hard to navigate. The main thing is just that unemployment and Social Security are totally separate benefit systems.

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Their website is definitely confusing. Sometimes it's easier to just call and ask directly.

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That's where Claimyr helped me out - avoided having to dig through their confusing website and got a real person on the phone who could explain it clearly.

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Your neighbor was probably thinking of some other benefit program. People mix up different government benefits all the time. Unemployment and Social Security definitely don't affect each other.

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Yeah I think my neighbor might have been confused about which programs interact with each other.

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There are so many different benefit programs that it's easy to get confused about which ones affect which others.

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Been collecting unemployment for 8 weeks now and just checked my Social Security statement online - nothing has changed about my projected benefits. They're completely separate like everyone said.

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Good to hear real-time confirmation! I should probably check my SS statement too.

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I remember my dad being worried about this same thing back in the 90s when he got laid off before retirement. Turned out to be no issue then either - seems like this is a persistent myth that worries people unnecessarily.

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Yeah it's one of those things that sounds like it could be true but actually isn't. Good thing forums like this exist to get real answers.

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The only potential issue I can think of is if you're planning to work part-time while collecting unemployment AND you're already collecting Social Security - then the work earnings could matter. But that's a very specific situation.

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Right, but OP isn't collecting SS yet and didn't mention working, so that scenario doesn't apply here.

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File your claim ASAP! The sooner you file, the sooner you can start receiving benefits. And don't worry about the Social Security thing - it's not an issue at all.

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You're right, I need to stop procrastinating and just file. Thanks for the push!

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Just want to add that even though unemployment doesn't affect Social Security, you still need to look for work while collecting UI benefits. Washington ESD has job search requirements you need to meet.

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Good reminder - I know about the job search requirements. I'm actively looking already.

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Yeah you have to log your job search activities in WorkSourceWA. Don't skip that part or they'll stop your benefits.

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Bottom line - unemployment benefits and Social Security are completely separate. File for your UI benefits with confidence, and don't let this worry keep you from getting the help you need while you're looking for work.

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Thanks everyone for all the reassurance and information. I'm going to file my claim today!

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Had the same concern when I was 63 and got laid off. Talked to someone at Social Security directly and they confirmed zero interaction between the two programs. Your future SS benefits are safe!

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Perfect - that's exactly the confirmation I needed. Really appreciate everyone's help with this question.

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Glad we could help clear this up for you. Good luck with your job search!

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