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Tristan Carpenter

Does unemployment affect social security benefits - NYS Department of Labor question

I'm 62 and considering filing for unemployment benefits through NYS Department of Labor after being laid off last month. My plan was to start collecting social security at 65, but I'm worried that receiving unemployment now might mess up my future social security payments. Has anyone dealt with this situation? I've heard conflicting information about whether UI benefits count as earned income or affect your social security calculation. Really need to know if filing with NYS Department of Labor will hurt my social security down the road.

Amaya Watson

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Good news - unemployment benefits from NYS Department of Labor do NOT affect your future social security benefits at all. UI is not considered earned income by Social Security Administration, so it won't count toward your earnings record or change your benefit calculation. You can collect unemployment now and still get your full social security at 65.

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That's such a relief! I was really stressing about this. So I can file my weekly claims with NYS Department of Labor without worrying about it impacting my social security calculation?

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Grant Vikers

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wait i thought any government benefits affected each other?? my neighbor said unemployment counted as income

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Amaya Watson

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Your neighbor is thinking of the earnings test that applies if you're already collecting social security before full retirement age. That's completely different from what OP is asking about.

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Juan Moreno

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Good news - unemployment benefits from NYS Department of Labor won't reduce your future Social Security retirement benefits at all. These are completely separate systems. Unemployment is based on your recent work history and wages, while Social Security retirement benefits are calculated from your highest 35 years of earnings. The only thing that could potentially affect Social Security is if you're already receiving early retirement benefits (before full retirement age) and then return to work.

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Thank you so much for explaining this! I was really stressed about it. So I can file my unemployment claim without worrying about my future retirement?

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I went through this exact situation two years ago. Filed for unemployment at 63 after my company downsized, collected benefits for about 8 months while job searching. When I applied for social security at 66, there was absolutely no impact. The SSA worker even confirmed that unemployment doesn't show up in their earnings calculations. Just make sure you're meeting your job search requirements with NYS Department of Labor.

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Thank you for sharing your experience! That really helps put my mind at ease. I'll start my unemployment application tomorrow.

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Levi Parker

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Never heard of that before but honestly anything is better than sitting on hold for hours. The NYS Department of Labor phone system is a nightmare.

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Libby Hassan

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Just to add - while unemployment won't affect your social security calculation, be aware that if you do decide to take early social security while still receiving unemployment, there could be complications with the earnings test. But since you're planning to wait until 65, this won't be an issue for you.

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Amy Fleming

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Your neighbor might be thinking of a different situation. If you're already collecting Social Security retirement benefits before your full retirement age and you go back to work, then there are earnings limits that could temporarily reduce your benefits. But unemployment payments themselves don't count as earnings for Social Security purposes.

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That makes sense. I'm not collecting Social Security yet, just planning for when I turn 67. So unemployment shouldn't be an issue then.

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Alice Pierce

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I was in almost the exact same situation two years ago! I was 62, got laid off, and collected unemployment for about 8 months while job searching. When I finally retired at 66, my Social Security benefits were exactly what the calculator predicted - the unemployment had zero impact. File for your benefits as soon as you're eligible, you earned them.

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Esteban Tate

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Just make sure when you file your NYS Department of Labor claim that you're honest about your age and retirement plans if they ask. Sometimes older workers have different job search requirements, but the benefits themselves won't affect Social Security. Also, if you have trouble getting through to NYS Department of Labor to ask questions about your specific situation, I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get connected to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI that shows how it works.

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Thanks for the tip about Claimyr! I'll definitely check that out if I can't get through on the phone.

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wait i thought if ur close to retirement they make u do different job search stuff?? like maybe not as many applications or something

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Juan Moreno

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You're thinking of some state programs that have modified requirements for older workers, but in New York you still need to meet the standard job search requirements regardless of age. The key is being able and available for work.

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Elin Robinson

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The only potential tax consideration is that unemployment benefits are taxable income for federal and state taxes, while Social Security benefits may or may not be taxable depending on your total income. But this is just a tax issue, not an impact on the benefit amounts themselves.

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I'm actually dealing with a similar situation right now - I'm 61 and just got laid off from my job of 15 years. I was also worried about how unemployment might affect my future Social Security benefits, so I did a lot of research and even spoke with someone at the Social Security Administration. They confirmed what others have said here - unemployment benefits are NOT counted as earned income for Social Security purposes and won't impact your benefit calculation at all. The Social Security Administration only looks at wages from employment and self-employment income when calculating your benefits. Unemployment insurance is considered an insurance benefit, not earnings. So you can definitely file with NYS Department of Labor without any concerns about your future Social Security. I filed mine last week and feel much better knowing it won't hurt my retirement plans.

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