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Sean Fitzgerald

Can you quit your job and still get Washington ESD unemployment benefits?

I'm in a really tough spot with my current job and wondering if there's any way to quit and still qualify for unemployment through Washington ESD. My supervisor has been creating a hostile work environment for months - constantly berating me in front of coworkers, giving me impossible deadlines, and now they're threatening to cut my hours if I don't work unpaid overtime. I've documented everything but HR won't do anything. I know usually you can't get UI if you quit, but are there exceptions? I can't afford to just walk away without some kind of safety net.

Yes, Washington ESD does allow unemployment benefits if you quit for 'good cause.' Hostile work environment can qualify, but you need solid documentation. Did you file any formal complaints with HR in writing? You'll need to prove you tried to resolve the situation first.

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I sent two emails to HR describing the situation but they just said it was a 'personality conflict' and to try working it out directly with my supervisor.

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That's actually helpful documentation. Keep those HR emails - Washington ESD will want to see you made good faith efforts to resolve the issue before quitting.

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Been through this exact situation last year. Washington ESD approved my claim after I quit due to harassment. The key is having everything in writing and being able to prove the work environment was intolerable for any reasonable person.

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How long did the adjudication process take? I'm worried about the gap between quitting and getting benefits approved.

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About 3 weeks for me, but I had really solid documentation. Start saving up some money if you can because there's always that waiting period.

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Thanks, I'll look into that. The Washington ESD phone system is impossible to navigate when you actually need help.

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Wait, you have to pay for that service though right? Seems like Washington ESD should just answer their own phones.

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Yeah the system is frustrating, but when you need answers about something this important it's worth it to actually talk to someone who knows the rules.

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The unpaid overtime demand is actually illegal under Washington labor laws. You might want to file a complaint with L&I before you quit - having that on record will strengthen your unemployment case significantly.

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I didn't know L&I complaints could help with unemployment eligibility. Would I file that first or quit first?

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File the L&I complaint first if possible. It creates an official record that your employer was violating labor laws, which supports your 'good cause' argument to Washington ESD.

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this is so stressful, im dealing with something similar but my manager keeps changing my schedule last minute and i have kids to pick up from daycare. is that considered good cause too or just the harassment stuff?

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Schedule changes that interfere with childcare can qualify as good cause, especially if they're unreasonable or done without proper notice. Document every last-minute change.

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ok good because i have texts from my manager changing my shifts with like 2 hours notice. thats definitely not reasonable

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Don't quit yet!! Try to get them to fire you instead. If you can document the hostile environment, maybe they'll terminate you for 'not being a good fit' and then you'd definitely qualify for unemployment without having to prove good cause.

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That's risky though - what if they don't fire me and the situation just keeps getting worse? I'm already having panic attacks on Sunday nights thinking about Monday.

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I tried that approach and it just prolonged the misery. Sometimes you have to prioritize your mental health and trust that you can make the good cause argument work.

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Fair point. Just make sure you have everything documented before you make the jump.

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Washington ESD is super strict about voluntary quits. Even with good cause you might face weeks of adjudication while they investigate. Make sure you have savings to cover at least a month of expenses.

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That's what I'm worried about. The adjudication period could leave me without income for weeks right when I need it most.

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That's exactly why services like Claimyr can be helpful - you can actually talk to someone at Washington ESD to understand the timeline for your specific situation before you make the decision to quit.

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I work in HR and see these situations all the time. Your best bet is creating a paper trail of EVERYTHING. Every conversation, every unreasonable demand, every HR interaction. Washington ESD will scrutinize your case heavily.

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What specific things should I be documenting? I have some stuff but want to make sure I'm not missing anything important.

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Dates, times, witnesses present, exact quotes if possible, your response to each incident, and any attempts you made to resolve the situation through proper channels.

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Ugh the whole system is ridiculous. You shouldn't have to choose between your mental health and financial security. But yeah, document everything and file that L&I complaint first like someone mentioned.

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Agreed, it's a terrible position to be in. Thanks for the support though, it helps to know others understand how impossible this situation feels.

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One more thing - when you do file your Washington ESD claim, be very specific about the good cause reasons. Don't just say 'hostile work environment.' List specific incidents, dates, and how they made continuing employment unreasonable.

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Good point. Should I mention the panic attacks or keep it focused on the workplace behavior?

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Include the health impacts if you have medical documentation. It shows the severity of the situation and supports your good cause argument.

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just went through this process last month and got approved! the key was having emails showing i tried to work with management first. took about 4 weeks total but worth it to get out of that toxic situation

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That's encouraging to hear! Did you have a lawyer or handle everything yourself?

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handled it myself but did use that claimyr service someone mentioned earlier to actually talk to someone at washington esd about my case. way better than trying to call on your own

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Make sure you understand Washington's 'able and available' requirements too. Even if you get approved for quitting with good cause, you still need to be actively job searching and available for work.

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Right, I'll need to start job searching immediately. Do they require a specific number of job contacts per week?

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It varies but typically 3-5 job search activities per week. Keep detailed records because they audit randomly.

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Have you considered talking to an employment attorney before you quit? Some offer free consultations and might identify other legal issues with your employer's behavior.

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I hadn't thought of that. Would talking to a lawyer before quitting help with the unemployment case?

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It could. If an attorney identifies legal violations, that creates additional documentation supporting your good cause argument to Washington ESD.

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Whatever you decide, don't let them push you into quitting without notice. Give proper notice in writing and cite the specific reasons. It shows you acted professionally despite the circumstances.

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Good advice. Even though they don't deserve it, I should take the high road for my own protection.

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Also remember that even if Washington ESD initially denies your claim, you can appeal. I've seen cases where people lost the initial determination but won on appeal with better documentation.

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How long does the appeal process typically take? This could drag on for months.

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Appeals usually take 4-6 weeks, but if you win you get back pay from when you first filed. That's why having that Claimyr service to talk to someone about your specific case timeline is helpful.

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The fact that HR dismissed your complaints as 'personality conflicts' actually works in your favor. It shows they weren't taking legitimate workplace issues seriously.

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I didn't think of it that way. Their dismissive response actually helps prove my case that I had no other options.

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Start your job search before you quit if possible. Having applications already submitted shows Washington ESD you're serious about finding new employment quickly.

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That's smart. I can probably start applying for jobs discreetly while I'm still employed.

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been lurking this thread because im in similar situation. really helpful to see all the advice about documentation and the L&I complaint. good luck OP!

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Thanks! Hope the advice helps you too. It's awful that so many people are dealing with toxic work environments.

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One final tip - when you file your Washington ESD claim, be prepared for your employer to contest it. They often do this automatically to avoid their unemployment tax rate going up.

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Of course they would contest it. That's exactly the kind of thing this company would do. More reason to have rock-solid documentation.

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Update: Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to file the L&I complaint this week, keep documenting everything, and start job searching. If things don't improve in the next couple weeks, I'll quit with proper notice and file for unemployment. Really appreciate having a plan now.

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Good plan! You're taking all the right steps to protect yourself. Best of luck with everything.

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You've got this! Having a solid exit strategy makes all the difference.

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