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Giovanni Conti

Can you get Washington ESD unemployment if you owe unemployment money from before?

I got laid off from my job last week and need to file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. The problem is I still owe them about $2,800 from an overpayment that happened two years ago when I didn't report some part-time work correctly. I've been making small payments when I can but haven't paid it off yet. Will Washington ESD let me file a new claim even though I still owe them money? I really need the benefits right now to pay rent and bills.

Yes you can still file a new claim! I had the same situation last year - owed them like $1,500 from a previous overpayment. They'll just deduct what you owe from your weekly benefit payments until its paid off.

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Oh that's a relief! So they don't just deny your whole claim because of the debt?

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Nope, they call it an 'offset' - you still get benefits but they take out a portion each week for the debt

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The debt won't prevent you from filing but be prepared for reduced weekly payments. Washington ESD typically offsets 25% of your weekly benefit amount toward the overpayment balance. So if you qualify for $400/week, you'd receive $300 and they'd apply $100 to your debt.

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25% seems like a lot when you're already struggling financially. Is there any way to negotiate a lower offset amount?

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You can request a hardship waiver if the offset would cause severe financial distress. You'd need to show documentation of your expenses and income.

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I tried the hardship thing and it took forever to get approved. Better to just deal with the offset honestly

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File your claim ASAP since there's a waiting period anyway. The key is being completely honest about your work history this time to avoid another overpayment situation down the road.

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Yeah I learned my lesson about reporting work. Do I need to mention the existing debt when I file or will they automatically see it in their system?

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They'll see it automatically - all your Washington ESD account information is linked. Just focus on accurately reporting your recent job separation.

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I was in a similar spot trying to get through to Washington ESD about my offset questions. Spent hours on hold and kept getting disconnected. Finally used Claimyr.com to get connected to an actual agent who explained everything about how the debt offset works. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works - saved me tons of time trying to call.

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Never heard of Claimyr before. Does it actually work for getting through to Washington ESD?

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Yeah it worked for me. Way better than sitting on hold for hours just to get hung up on

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Anything that helps you actually talk to someone at Washington ESD is worth trying at this point

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THE SYSTEM IS SO MESSED UP! You owe them money because THEY screwed up their own processes and now they punish you by taking more money when you're unemployed again. Makes no sense!!

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I understand the frustration but overpayments usually happen because of unreported income, not system errors

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Maybe in some cases but their website is confusing as hell about what you need to report and when

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Update: I filed my claim this morning and it went through without any problems. The online application didn't even ask about existing debt - it just processed normally. Now I wait for the determination letter to see what my weekly benefit amount will be after the offset.

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Good job getting it filed! The waiting is the worst part but at least you got the process started

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how long did the application take you to complete?

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About 30 minutes total. Had to gather my employment info and W2s first which took longer than the actual application

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been there with the overpayment thing - mine was from not understanding the work search requirements properly. They offset my benefits for like 8 months but at least I was still getting something each week.

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8 months seems like forever when you need the money now. Did the offset amount ever change or was it the same percentage every week?

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same 25% every week until it was paid off. Never changed even when I got a small raise at my part time job

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Just to clarify some terminology - what you're dealing with is called 'benefit offset' not garnishment. The offset only applies to unemployment benefits, not other income sources. If you get a job while collecting UI, they can't take money from your paycheck for the old debt.

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That's good to know. So the debt only affects unemployment payments, not regular wages if I find work?

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Correct - unless the debt goes to collections, but Washington ESD usually prefers the offset method for unemployment-related debts

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Wait they can send it to collections? I thought it just stayed with Washington ESD forever

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Had this exact situation in 2023. Filed new claim while owing $3200 from previous overpayment. Got approved but weekly payments were reduced. Honestly wasn't as bad as I expected - still got enough to cover basics.

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That's encouraging to hear. Did you ever try to pay extra toward the debt to reduce the offset period?

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Yeah I made a few extra payments when I could. Every dollar you pay extra reduces how long the offset lasts

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Another thing about Claimyr - when I called Washington ESD directly about my offset situation, I could never get clear answers about how long it would take to pay off. The agent I reached through Claimyr actually calculated it for me based on my weekly benefit amount and remaining balance. Super helpful.

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That's exactly what I need - someone to actually explain the math instead of just saying 'it depends

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Right? The regular customer service line agents seem to only know basic info. The ones you reach through Claimyr actually seem to understand the details

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just want to say this thread is super helpful - I'm in the same boat with an old overpayment and was scared to file a new claim thinking they'd reject it automatically

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Glad it helped! I was worried about the same thing but it really wasn't as complicated as I thought

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yeah Washington ESD gets a bad rap but the system actually works pretty logically once you understand it

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One thing to watch out for - make sure you keep making your regular monthly payments on the old debt even while they're doing the offset. I stopped paying thinking the offset was enough and it caused issues with my payment agreement.

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Oh wow I didn't think about that. So you have to do both - the offset AND your regular payment plan?

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Depends on your specific payment agreement but mine required me to keep making the minimum monthly payments regardless of the offset

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This is correct - the offset and payment plan are separate arrangements. Always read your payment agreement carefully.

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Does anyone know if the offset affects the maximum number of weeks you can collect? Like if you're eligible for 26 weeks, do you still get 26 weeks even with the reduced payments?

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Yes, the offset doesn't change your eligibility duration. If you qualify for 26 weeks, you get 26 weeks regardless of the payment amount

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Thanks! That makes me feel better about filing with an existing debt

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this whole thread makes me realize I should probably file sooner rather than later. Been putting it off because of my old overpayment but sounds like I'm just losing money by waiting

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Definitely file ASAP - there's a waiting week anyway so every day you delay just pushes back when you start receiving benefits

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good point, going to do it this weekend when I have time to gather all my paperwork

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For anyone still struggling to get through to Washington ESD about their specific offset situation, I really recommend trying Claimyr. I know I mentioned it before but it seriously saved me hours of phone frustration. The video demo shows exactly how it works and it's much easier than the regular phone system.

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Is there a cost for using Claimyr or is it free?

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There's a fee but honestly worth it when you consider how many hours you'd spend on hold otherwise. Plus you actually get to talk to someone who knows what they're talking about

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I might try this if I can't get through the regular way. The phone system is absolutely terrible

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Quick question - does the offset apply to the waiting week too or only to actual benefit payments?

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The offset only applies to actual benefit payments, not the waiting week since there's no payment during the waiting week anyway

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Makes sense, thanks for clarifying

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I was skeptical about services like Claimyr at first but after spending literally 6 hours over 3 days trying to reach Washington ESD about my offset questions, I finally tried it. Got connected to an agent in under 10 minutes who answered all my questions about how the debt would affect my new claim. Sometimes you just have to admit the regular system isn't working.

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That's a huge time difference! I might need to look into this if I have issues with my claim

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Yeah I wish I had known about it sooner. Would have saved me so much stress and wasted time

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful info in this thread. Going to file my claim today now that I know the existing debt won't block it completely. Really appreciate all the detailed explanations!

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Glad the thread helped! Good luck with your claim - hopefully the process goes smoothly for you

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Remember to report all income accurately this time around to avoid future overpayment issues

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Definitely learned that lesson the hard way. Will be extra careful about reporting everything correctly

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