Can you file for unemployment if you own a business in Washington?

This is actually more complicated than most people think. If you're self-employed in Washington, you generally can't collect regular UI benefits unless you've been paying into the system as both employer and employee. But there might be exceptions depending on your specific situation.

wait i thought business owners couldn't get unemployment at all? this is confusing

I went through something similar last year. The key thing Washington ESD looks at is whether you're truly unemployed or just having a slow period in your business. If you're still operating, even minimally, it gets tricky.

You should definitely call Washington ESD directly about this because the rules around self-employment and business ownership are really specific. I tried calling multiple times but kept getting disconnected or put on hold forever. Finally used claimyr.com to get through to an actual agent who could explain my situation properly. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS! They make it impossible to get help when you need it most. I've been paying taxes for years and when my business struggles they just say tough luck.

The main factors Washington ESD considers are: 1) Business structure (LLC, Corp, sole prop), 2) Whether you've paid unemployment taxes on your own wages, 3) If you're still operating the business, 4) Your role in the business (owner-operator vs. having employees). Each situation is unique.

This is giving me anxiety just reading about it. I'm in a similar boat and was hoping to file soon. Do I need a lawyer for this or something? What if I mess up the application?

Another thing to consider - if you do any contract work or 1099 income while your business is slow, that could affect your eligibility too. You have to report all income sources.

this whole thread is making me realize how complicated this stuff is. maybe just easier to try to find more clients instead

One more important point - if you've been operating as an LLC and paying yourself a W-2 salary (not just distributions), you might have been paying unemployment taxes and could qualify for regular benefits. Check your tax records.

Just wanted to add that I know someone who owned a business and was able to get unemployment, but they had to prove they completely ceased operations. Like literally shut everything down, not just had a slow period.

Seriously though, calling Washington ESD is your best bet for getting a definitive answer. Every business situation is different and they need to review your specific circumstances. The Claimyr service I mentioned earlier really helped me get through when I couldn't reach anyone the regular way.

Bottom line: file an application if you think you might qualify, but be completely honest about your business ownership and operations. Washington ESD will make the determination based on your specific situation. Don't assume you're disqualified without trying.

Just remember that even if you qualify, the weekly benefit amount for business owners is often lower because your reported income might be irregular. Don't expect the same amount as traditional employees.

thanks everyone for all the info, this has been really helpful even though it's confusing

One last thought - if you do apply and get approved, make sure you understand the job search requirements. They might be different for business owners who are looking to return to traditional employment vs. trying to restart their business.

This whole discussion has been eye-opening. I'm going to gather all my business records and try calling Washington ESD tomorrow to see what my options are.

Hope everything works out for everyone dealing with slow business. These are tough times for small business owners.

Final reminder that getting through to Washington ESD by phone can be really challenging during busy periods. If you're having trouble connecting, that Claimyr service at claimyr.com can save you hours of calling and redialing. Worth considering if you need answers quickly.

Good discussion everyone. Remember that unemployment laws can change, so always verify current information directly with Washington ESD rather than relying solely on forum advice, no matter how well-intentioned.