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Liam Fitzgerald

Can undocumented immigrants get Washington ESD unemployment benefits?

I've been working construction jobs for the past two years and paying into the system through my employer. Recently got laid off and wondering if I can apply for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD even though I'm undocumented. I have an ITIN and my employer has been taking out taxes and unemployment insurance from my paychecks. Does anyone know if Washington ESD requires legal status to qualify for UI benefits? I'm really stressed about this situation and need to know my options.

Unfortunately, you need to be authorized to work in the US to qualify for unemployment benefits in Washington. Washington ESD requires you to be able and available for work, which includes being legally authorized to work. Even if you've been paying into the system, eligibility requires work authorization status.

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That's what I was afraid of. It seems unfair since I've been paying into the system for years.

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I know it feels unfair but that's federal law that governs all state unemployment programs.

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You might want to check with an immigration attorney about your specific situation. Sometimes there are exceptions or other programs that might help. Also, if you have pending immigration cases or certain visa applications, that could potentially change things.

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Good idea, I'll look into legal consultation. Do you know of any low-cost immigration lawyers in Washington?

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Try the Northwest Immigrant Rights Project - they offer free and low-cost services.

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I was in a similar situation last year and couldn't get through to Washington ESD to even ask questions. The phone lines are always busy and when I finally got through they just told me I wasn't eligible. If you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD, I found this service called Claimyr that helps you get through to an actual agent. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Thanks, I'll check that out. Even if I'm not eligible, I want to understand the rules better.

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That Claimyr thing actually works? The Washington ESD phone system is such a nightmare.

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Yeah it worked for me. Got through to an agent in like 20 minutes instead of calling for days.

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this is so messed up that people can pay into unemployment for years and then not be eligible when they need it!! the whole system is broken

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I understand the frustration, but unemployment insurance is tied to work authorization requirements by federal law.

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still doesn't make it right when people have been contributing to the system

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Have you looked into other assistance programs? Even if you can't get UI benefits, there might be other emergency assistance available through Washington state or local programs. Food assistance, rental help, etc.

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I haven't really looked into that yet. Do you know where I should start?

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Start with 211 - just dial 2-1-1 and they can connect you with local assistance programs.

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Also check with local churches and community organizations. Many have emergency assistance funds.

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Just to clarify the Washington ESD eligibility requirements - you need to have work authorization, be able and available for work, and actively seeking employment. The work authorization part is what creates the barrier in your situation. This applies to all states, not just Washington.

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Thanks for the clear explanation. I guess I need to focus on finding other types of assistance.

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What about if someone gets DACA status? Would that change eligibility?

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DACA recipients with work authorization would likely be eligible, but they should verify with Washington ESD directly.

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Contact your local WorkSource office too. Even if you can't get unemployment benefits, they might have job placement services or training programs that could help you get back to work faster.

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That's a good suggestion. I need to get back to work as soon as possible anyway.

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Exactly, and they don't require the same eligibility as unemployment benefits for their job search services.

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I'm confused about this whole work authorization thing. If someone has been paying into unemployment insurance, why wouldn't they be eligible? Seems like the government is taking money they're not going to give back.

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It's because unemployment benefits are considered a form of public assistance, and federal law restricts public benefits to those authorized to work.

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But they're paying into it just like everyone else. That doesn't seem right.

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The payments create the fund, but eligibility for benefits has additional requirements beyond just contributing.

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One more thing to consider - if your immigration status changes in the future, you might be able to apply then. Washington ESD doesn't have a time limit on when you file after becoming unemployed, as long as you meet all the other requirements.

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Good to know for the future. Right now I need to focus on immediate solutions though.

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Absolutely. The immigration attorney consultation is still your best bet for understanding all your options.

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This thread is really helpful. I have a friend in the same situation and wasn't sure what to tell them. Sounds like legal consultation and other assistance programs are the way to go.

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Yeah, definitely share the resources people mentioned here. The 211 number seems like a good starting point.

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211 is great because they know all the local programs and can help navigate what's available.

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Just want to add that if you do decide to call Washington ESD to confirm this information yourself, be prepared for long wait times. I tried calling for weeks about a different issue before someone mentioned Claimyr to me. That service actually got me through to talk to a real person at Washington ESD.

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Someone else mentioned Claimyr earlier too. Might be worth it just to get official confirmation even if the answer isn't what I want to hear.

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Exactly. Sometimes it's better to get official information directly from the source, even if it's disappointing news.

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Have you considered filing anyway just to get an official determination? Sometimes there are exceptions or special circumstances that aren't widely known.

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Filing when you know you're not eligible could potentially create issues later if immigration status becomes relevant in other contexts.

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Good point. Better to get legal advice first before filing anything official.

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Yeah, I don't want to create any problems for myself. I'll talk to an attorney first.

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Sorry you're going through this. The system really does need reform when people who contribute can't access benefits. Hope you find some help through the other programs people mentioned.

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Thanks for the support. It's frustrating but I appreciate everyone taking time to help with information and suggestions.

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That's what these forums are for. Hope things work out for you.

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One last resource - the Washington State Labor Council might have information about advocacy efforts or additional resources for workers in your situation. They sometimes know about programs that aren't well publicized.

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I'll look them up. At this point I'm following up on every lead people have given me.

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Good strategy. Cast a wide net and see what help is actually available.

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Thanks everyone for this discussion. I learned a lot reading through this thread. The immigration law intersection with unemployment benefits is really complex.

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It really is complex. That's why legal consultation is so important for anyone in this situation.

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Definitely. This thread shows how helpful it is when people share accurate information and resources.

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OP, hope you're able to find the help you need through some of the other programs mentioned. Keep us posted if you find out about any additional resources.

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Will do. I'm going to start with the 211 call and immigration attorney consultation. Thanks again everyone for all the helpful information and support.

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Good luck with everything. You've got a solid plan for next steps.

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This has been really educational. I work in HR and sometimes employees ask me about this stuff. Now I know to direct them to immigration attorneys rather than trying to give advice myself.

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That's smart. Immigration law is too complex for non-specialists to give advice on.

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Exactly. Better to connect people with the right experts than accidentally give wrong information.

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Just want to emphasize again that even though you can't get unemployment benefits, there are other safety net programs that might help while you look for work. Don't give up on getting assistance.

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I won't give up. This thread has given me hope that there are other options out there.

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That's the spirit. There are people and organizations who want to help, you just have to find them.

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Final thought - if your previous employer was taking out unemployment taxes from your pay, you might want to keep those pay stubs as documentation. Could be relevant for future immigration proceedings or other situations.

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Good point. I do have all my pay stubs saved. Never thought about them being useful for immigration stuff.

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Always good to keep documentation of work history and tax contributions. You never know when it might be helpful.

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Thanks for asking this question OP. I'm sure there are other people in similar situations who will benefit from reading this discussion and learning about the resources that were shared.

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That was part of why I decided to post. Figured others might have the same question and it's better to get accurate information out there.

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Absolutely. These kinds of discussions help build community knowledge about important issues.

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I work with immigrant communities and wanted to add that some cities and counties in Washington have their own emergency assistance programs that don't have the same federal restrictions as unemployment benefits. King County, for example, has emergency rental assistance and other support programs. It's worth checking with your local city hall or county offices to see what's available in your specific area. Also, many community colleges offer free job training programs that could help you transition to other types of work while you're dealing with this situation.

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