Can I use waiting week during union Christmas break then get UI for apprentice school?
Hey all, I'm in a bit of a bind with my work schedule as a union apprentice. Our shop is shutting down for a mandatory 12-day Christmas break starting Dec 20, 2025. On top of that, I have a required 2-week apprenticeship school coming up in February. I'm trying to figure out how to maximize my unemployment during these periods. Could I serve my waiting week during the Christmas break and then be eligible for full unemployment during my 2-week school session? The school is mandatory for my apprenticeship certification, and I won't be getting paid by my employer during either period. Does anyone know if ESD considers mandatory apprenticeship training as being "able and available" for work? I heard different things from other apprentices and I'm confused about how this works with the waiting week requirements. Thanks for any advice!
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Ava Martinez
When i was in my plumbers apprentice program i tried doing that and got DENIED. They said school doesnt count as being layed off, its like ur choosing not to work those weeks. Totally BS since its mandatory training!!!! ESD is seriously broken for trade workers.
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StarSurfer
•Ugh that's frustrating to hear. Did you try appealing their decision? My training coordinator mentioned something about approved training programs being covered, but wasn't sure about the waiting week situation.
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Miguel Castro
Yes, you can use your Christmas break to serve your waiting week, and then potentially collect benefits during your training period in February. Here's what you need to know: 1. For the Christmas break: File your initial claim as soon as the break starts. This will be a temporary layoff situation, and your first week will be your waiting week (unpaid). 2. For your apprenticeship training: You need to apply for the Training Benefits program through ESD. Approved apprenticeship programs typically qualify under Commissioner Approved Training (CAT). 3. Important steps: - When you file your initial claim, indicate you're in an apprenticeship program - Request the Training Benefits application - Get documentation from your apprenticeship coordinator confirming the mandatory nature of the training - Upload this documentation to your ESD account If approved for Training Benefits, you'll be considered "able and available" for work while attending your training program. This means you can receive benefits during your school weeks without having to look for work.
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Zainab Abdulrahman
•This is correct. I'm also in a union apprenticeship program (IBEW) and have successfully done this exact thing. Make sure you specifically mention "Commissioner Approved Training" when you talk to ESD. And keep copies of ALL your training documentation handy.
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Connor Byrne
my cousin did this last yr but he said u gotta do the job search requirements during xmas break since thats a regular layoff but not during the school part if u get approved for training. he said his boss had to fill out some paper saying the layoff was temporary too
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Miguel Castro
•Your cousin is right. For the Christmas break period, you'll need to complete the 3 job search activities per week (unless your employer has specifically requested and been approved for "standby" status for you). For the training period, once approved under Commissioner Approved Training, you're exempt from job search requirements while attending your approved training program.
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Yara Elias
I work with apprentices in a different trade and here's what I've observed: Many apprentices struggle contacting ESD to get proper guidance on this. The system is frustrating - long hold times, disconnected calls, etc. I've had several apprentices use Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an actual agent. They have a video demo showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 Really helped my apprentices get clarity on their specific situations, especially with the training benefits program which can be confusing. Worth considering if you're hitting walls trying to reach someone.
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QuantumQuasar
•Is Claimyr legit? I've heard about it but wasn't sure if it was worth trying. The ESD phone system is literally the worst - I spent 4 hours on hold last month only to get disconnected.
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Keisha Jackson
Wait i thought you cant get unemployment if your in school???? Somebody told me educational programs disqualify you completely from benefits. This whole system is so confusing!!
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Miguel Castro
•That's a common misconception. The general rule is that you must be available for work to receive unemployment benefits, and full-time schooling can potentially interfere with that availability. However, Washington State has specific exceptions for approved training programs, including apprenticeships. Under the Commissioner Approved Training (CAT) program, if your training is approved, you can receive benefits while attending school without having to look for work. This is actually designed to support people improving their skills to return to the workforce in a higher capacity. Apprenticeship programs typically qualify because they're directly tied to employment.
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Zainab Abdulrahman
One important thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you restart your claim between the Christmas break and your February training period if you return to work in between! If you don't, ESD might consider it continuous and you could run into issues with your benefit year or maximum benefits payable. Each separate period needs to be handled properly.
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StarSurfer
•That's a really good point I hadn't thought about. So when I go back to work after Christmas break, I should close my claim, then open a new one before the February training starts?
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QuantumQuasar
The ESD system is COMPLETELY BROKEN for trades and seasonal workers!!! I spent 6 weeks trying to get my benefits approved during my last training period and then they wanted all kinds of additional documentation that wasn't listed anywhere on their website. By the time it was approved, my training was almost over. Make sure you start this process EARLY and document EVERYTHING. Take screenshots of every page you submit, record the names of every ESD agent you talk to, and follow up constantly. The system is designed to make you give up!!
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Paolo Moretti
•100% THIS ⬆️ ESD will find any excuse to delay your claim. I submitted all my training documentation and they claimed they never received it, even though I had confirmation numbers. Had to resubmit everything twice!
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StarSurfer
Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice! I'm going to: 1. File my initial claim at the start of Christmas break 2. Complete my waiting week during that time 3. Do the required job searches during the Christmas break period 4. Request the Training Benefits application for my February apprenticeship training 5. Get documentation from my training coordinator about the mandatory nature of the training 6. Keep detailed records of everything I submit I really appreciate all the insights and warnings about potential pitfalls. This community has been super helpful!
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Miguel Castro
•That's a solid plan! One last tip: when you file your weekly claims during your approved training period, there's a question asking if you were available for work. If your training has been approved, you should answer "Yes" to this question, even though you're in training. This is because under approved training, you're considered available for work by ESD's definition. Good luck!
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