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One important thing to note: "just cause" in the employer's mind doesn't necessarily equal "misconduct" in ESD's determination. This is actually good news for you. Under Washington unemployment law, simple attendance issues typically don't rise to the level of misconduct unless they involve deliberate violation of known policies after warnings. If your absences were for medical reasons, even if your employer didn't accept them at the time, ESD likely will. This is why thorough documentation is so crucial. When the adjudicator reviews your case, they're looking at whether your actions meet the legal definition of misconduct, not whether your employer felt justified in firing you. In the meantime, have you contacted your local WorkSource office? They sometimes can help with emergency resources while you're waiting for unemployment benefits.
btw did u appeal ur termination with ur company before filing for unemployment? that can speed things up somtimes cuz it shows u tried to resolve it first
I did attempt to appeal through HR but was told the decision was final. I have the email correspondence showing I tried though - should I upload that to my eServices account too?
Yes, absolutely upload that email correspondence to your eServices account. Any documentation showing you attempted to resolve the situation through proper channels helps demonstrate good faith on your part.
I work in HR and deal with unemployment issues regularly. This is definitely an identification mix-up in the ESD system. I've seen many cases where ESD has confused claimants with similar names or SSNs. I'd recommend doing all of the following: 1. Continue trying to reach a live agent (others have suggested methods) 2. Submit a formal appeal through the OAH (Office of Administrative Hearings) - this is different from the eServices appeals you've submitted 3. Go to your local WorkSource office in person - sometimes they can help escalate these issues 4. Contact your state representative as someone suggested 5. Continue filing weekly claims despite the denial Most importantly, document EVERYTHING. Note the dates/times of all calls, take screenshots of all online submissions, and keep copies of all documents you submit. This creates a paper trail showing your due diligence that can help get any waiting week penalties waived once the issue is resolved.
Thank you for these detailed suggestions! I didn't know about the OAH formal appeal process - is there a specific form I need to fill out for that? And do you think it's worth visiting WorkSource in person even if they're not directly connected to the UI department?
Yes, you can find the OAH appeal form on the ESD website under "Appeals". It's different from the eServices appeal process. You'll submit this to the Office of Administrative Hearings directly. As for WorkSource, while they're technically separate from the UI department, many WorkSource offices have ESD staff on site who have internal connections and can sometimes escalate cases or provide direct contact information for UI specialists. It's worth a try, especially if you're getting nowhere with phone calls. Just be sure to bring all your documentation with you.
UPDATE: I finally got through to a real person at ESD! I used the Claimyr service that someone suggested above, and it worked great. Got a call back in about 2 hours. The agent confirmed it was indeed a case of mistaken identity - they had somehow merged my records with someone else's who had the same last name but different first name and SSN! They've escalated my case to a claims specialist who will call me within 48 hours to process the correction. I'm still going to submit that OAH appeal as backup, but it looks like things are finally moving in the right direction. Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions!
I'm wondering if this is related to that system update they announced last month? They sent an email about upgrading some parts of eServices but I don't remember the exact dates. Maybe we're seeing the aftermath of a botched update rollout.
Yes, you're right. They're in the middle of a phased system modernization project that was announced in their April 2025 claimant newsletter. Phase 2 was scheduled for implementation throughout May and June, with weekend maintenance windows. The claim filing issues some people are experiencing are likely related to this transition period.
Just wanted to update you - I helped someone last month with a similar situation, and we discovered that if you mark your waiver application as "financial hardship" AND "equity and good conscience" (there should be checkboxes for both), it increases your chances of approval. Also, be persistent about calling. If you use that Claimyr service I mentioned, ask specifically for a tier 2 agent who can look at both your adjudication and your waiver status.
I just checked and I only marked "financial hardship" - didn't even see the other option! Is there any way to update that now? And yes, I'm definitely going to try calling again tomorrow.
Update that by calling them. "Equity and good conscience" applies well to your situation since you never received notification of the overpayment. That's actually a due process issue they take seriously. Also, regarding the "eligibility issues" - that's typically code for one of three things: 1) they think you didn't report some income, 2) they question your availability for work during those weeks, or 3) there was an employer protest that was processed late. Any of these sound possible?
Thanks for explaining that! I'm guessing it might be #2 - I was taking an online certification course during part of that time, but I reported it and was still applying for jobs. Maybe they decided after the fact that the course made me unavailable? I'll definitely mention the "equity and good conscience" aspect when I call.
Yuki Nakamura
Another option is to visit your local WorkSource office in person. They can't fix your claim directly, but they have special contact channels to ESD that the public doesn't. I was stuck in a similar situation last year and the WorkSource staff were able to get an ESD specialist to call me back within 48 hours.
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Jamal Thompson
•this doesnt always work fyi. i went to the worksource in tacoma and they just gave me the same phone number i already had. depends on which office and who you talk to i guess
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Ethan Moore
Update: I tried both the governor's complaint form AND calling OAH this morning. OAH was actually really helpful - the person I spoke with said they're seeing this issue a lot lately. They're sending me a paper appeal form and said I should include a written statement explaining why my appeal is late, with all the documentation of my attempts to contact ESD. They said as long as I can show I made reasonable efforts to resolve it with ESD first, they'll likely grant the good cause exception. Feeling a bit more hopeful now!
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Zoe Christodoulou
•That's excellent news! Make sure your statement is detailed but concise, focusing on: 1. The date you discovered you were denied 2. Each specific attempt to contact ESD (dates, methods) 3. The lack of determination letter in your eServices account 4. Any financial hardship the delay has caused If you have your determination number or can see the denial status in your account (even without the letter), include a screenshot of that as well. The good cause hearing is usually scheduled relatively quickly.
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Ethan Moore
•Thank you! I have screenshots showing the status as "denied" but no letter, plus my call log showing all the times I called ESD. Really appreciate everyone's help with this.
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