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Jacinda Yu

Will my SS application date affect my Full Retirement Age benefits if I apply before FRA?

I'm really confused about something that happened when I scheduled my Social Security appointment. My Full Retirement Age is June 2025, but I called SSA last week to set up an appointment to discuss my options. The representative took my information and then said something that worried me - she mentioned that my "sign up date" would be the day I talked to her on the phone. She scheduled me for a phone appointment on April 1st, but now I'm concerned that this initial call might have somehow counted as me applying early (before my FRA). Could this affect my benefit amount? I don't want to accidentally get reduced benefits just because I called to schedule an appointment! Has anyone else experienced this? Did I misunderstand what she meant by "sign up date"?

dont worry, making an appointment isnt the same as applying! they probably just meant your name was entered in their system on that date. i went thru this last year. the ACTUAL application date is when you submit the application during your appointment. thats what counts for your benefits

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Thank you! That's a relief. I was so worried they'd automatically process me as applying early.

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The representative was likely just referring to the date your appointment request was processed in their system, not your actual application date. Your application date is the date you formally apply for benefits, which would be during your April 1st phone appointment. This is an important distinction because applying before your Full Retirement Age (FRA) would result in permanently reduced benefits. If you want to receive your full benefits, make sure to specify during your April appointment that you want your benefit start date to be your FRA month (June 2025). You can apply up to 4 months before you want benefits to begin, so your April appointment is perfectly timed for a June start date. The representative will ask you specifically what month you want benefits to begin - this is where you control your actual "application date" as far as benefit calculations are concerned.

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This is exactly what I needed to know! So even though I'm having the appointment in April, I can still specify that I want benefits to start in June when I reach my FRA? I was so confused about the terminology she was using.

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I had THE EXACT SAME WORRY last year!!! The SS phone people use confusing language sometimes. When I called they said something about "we're processing your claim today" and I freaked out thinking they were starting my benefits early. But when I had my actual appointment, the specialist explained that nothing happens until you officially submit the application and select your benefit start month. So don't worry!!!

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That's so good to hear someone else had the same concern. Their terminology really is confusing! Did you end up waiting until your FRA to start benefits?

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My sister went through this exact same thing and got really confused about the "sign up date" vs "application date" vs "benefit start date" - they're all different things! The sign-up date is just administrative for their appointment system. The application date is when you actually submit your application. The benefit start date is what matters for your payment calculation - that's the date you tell them you want benefits to begin (which can be your FRA or later). I tried calling SSA multiple times to help her straighten this out and kept getting disconnected or waiting forever. Finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got us through to an agent in under 10 minutes. They have this demo video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Totally worth it to get clear answers directly from SSA about these confusing terms.

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Omg thanks for sharing this! I've been trying to get through to SS for DAYS about my husband's application status. Will definitely check this out

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Thanks for explaining the different terms - that makes so much more sense now. And I appreciate the tip about Claimyr. If I have trouble reaching someone to clarify anything else, I'll definitely look into it.

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Just to add some technical clarification: The "protective filing date" is what SSA uses to establish when you first made contact about benefits. This protects you if benefits would be higher if started earlier. The "application date" is when you complete the actual application. The "entitlement date" (or benefit start date) is when your benefits actually begin. In your case, you want your entitlement date to be June 2025. Make this very clear during your April appointment. You're applying within the 4-month advance application window, which is perfect timing. Just be explicit that you want benefits to start in your FRA month (June 2025).

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Thank you for explaining all these different terms! I'll definitely specify June 2025 as my entitlement date. Is there specific language I should use during the appointment to make this crystal clear?

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When I applied last year, I thought the same thing! But I learned that what matters is the month you choose for benefits to START - not when you apply or when you have the appointment. During your April call, they'll ask "When do you want your benefits to begin?" and that's when you say June 2025. Just be super clear about it and you'll be fine.

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exactly! and make sure u get the confirmation in writing after. i took screenshots of everything just to be safe

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I'm still confused about something - can anyone tell me if it's better to apply right AT your FRA or can you do it a couple months before like OP is doing? I thought you HAD to wait until your actual FRA month to even apply or you'd automatically get reduced benefits???

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You can apply up to 4 months before you want benefits to begin. So if your FRA is in June, you can apply as early as February for full benefits as long as you specify June as your benefit start month. The key is not when you apply, but what month you select for benefits to begin.

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This whole system is SO UNNECESSARILY COMPLICATED! Why can't they just make it simple? My husband and I both got different answers from different SS representatives when we called. One told us the application date determined everything, another said it was the benefit start date. Honestly, I think half the time THEY don't even know their own rules. Document EVERYTHING.

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You're right about documentation! I took notes during my call with names and dates. When I got confused about something later, I called back and mentioned my notes from the previous call, and suddenly they were much more helpful and consistent.

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To wrap things up for the original poster: During your April 1st phone appointment, you'll go through the actual application process. At that time, you'll be asked when you want your benefits to begin. Specify June 2025 (your FRA month). Applying in April for June benefits is completely fine and won't reduce your benefit amount as long as you select the correct benefit start month. I recommend taking detailed notes during the call, including the name of the representative you speak with. After the application is submitted, you'll receive a confirmation letter - review it carefully to ensure the benefit start date is shown correctly as June 2025.

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Thank you so much for this clear explanation! I'll definitely take detailed notes and make sure to clearly specify June 2025 as my benefit start date. This community has been incredibly helpful!

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I'm a bit late to this conversation, but I wanted to share my experience since I went through something very similar last year. When I called SSA to schedule my appointment, the representative used the term "enrollment date" which made me panic thinking I had accidentally enrolled early! Turns out it was just the date they logged my call in their system. During my actual appointment, I made it crystal clear that I wanted my benefits to start in my FRA month, and everything worked out perfectly. The representative even repeated back to me "So you want benefits to begin in [FRA month], is that correct?" before finalizing anything. One tip: When you have your April appointment, ask them to send you a written confirmation showing your selected benefit start date. That way you have documentation if there are any questions later. Good luck!

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