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Mei Chen

Will SSDI be reduced if I rollover traditional IRA to Roth IRA? Taxable income increase concern

Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a pickle and could use some advice. I'm thinking about rolling over my traditional IRA into a Roth IRA, but I'm worried it might affect my SSDI benefits. Does anyone know if the increase in taxable income from this rollover could potentially reduce my SSDI payments? I'm really trying to make the best financial decision here, but I don't want to accidentally mess up my benefits. Any insights or experiences would be super helpful!

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I've been through this rodeo before, and let me tell you, it's a doozy. From what I understand, SSDI isn't means-tested like SSI, so your assets shouldn't affect your eligibility. However, and this is a big however, the taxable income from the rollover could potentially push you over the substantial gainful activity (SGA) limit. You might wanna talk to a financial advisor or someone at the SSA to get the nitty-gritty details for your specific situation.

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This is solid advice. I'd def recommend talking to a pro before making any big moves. Better safe than sorry, ya know?

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Wait, so SSDI isnt affected by assets at all? I thought all these gov't programs were the same. Learn something new everyday I guess 🤔

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Yep, SSDI and SSI are different beasts. SSDI is based on your work history and disability status, while SSI looks at your income and resources. Easy to mix 'em up tho!

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Ugh, the whole system is so confusing! 🤯 I swear they make it complicated on purpose. Good luck figuring it out, OP. Let us know what you find out!

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Here's the deal with SSDI and IRA rollovers: 1. SSDI benefits are not means-tested, so the amount of money in your IRA doesn't affect your eligibility. 2. However, the taxable income from converting a traditional IRA to a Roth IRA could potentially impact your benefits indirectly. 3. The conversion is treated as income in the year it occurs, which could: a) Make a portion of your SSDI benefits taxable if your total income exceeds certain thresholds. b) Potentially affect your eligibility for other income-based programs or benefits. 4. It shouldn't affect your SSDI payment amount directly, as SSDI is based on your earnings record, not current income. 5. Be aware of the substantial gainful activity (SGA) limit, which is $1,470 per month for non-blind individuals in 2023. My advice? Consider spreading the conversion over several years to minimize the impact on your yearly income. And definitely consult with a tax professional or financial advisor who specializes in disability benefits before making any moves.

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Mei Chen

Wow, thank you so much for this detailed breakdown! This really helps clarify things. I'll definitely look into spreading out the conversion like you suggested.

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have you considerd just not reporting the rollover? 😏 what the government doesnt know wont hurt em right lol

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Dude, no. That's literally tax fraud. Don't even joke about that stuff here.

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chill bro it was just a joke 🙄

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I went through something similar last year. Ended up not doing the rollover because I was too worried about messing up my benefits. The peace of mind was worth more than the potential tax savings for me. But everyone's situation is different!

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Quick question - how long have you been on SSDI? If it's been less than 24 months, there might be some additional considerations to keep in mind.

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Mei Chen

I've been on SSDI for about 3 years now. Does that change anything?

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Ah, gotcha. In that case, you're past the trial work period and extended period of eligibility, so the main thing to watch out for is just staying under that SGA limit others have mentioned.

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Not to hijack the thread, but has anyone else noticed that the SSA's website has been extra glitchy lately? Tried to check my benefit status yesterday and kept getting error messages. 🙄

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Omg yes! I thought it was just me. That site is held together with duct tape and prayers I swear

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Remember, whatever you decide, document EVERYTHING. Keep records of all your communications with SSA, any calculations you do, and the reasoning behind your decisions. It'll save you a headache if you ever get audited or have to appeal anything.

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Just wanted to add another perspective here - I actually did a partial Roth conversion while on SSDI about two years ago. I worked with a CPA who specializes in disability benefits, and we did it in smaller chunks over three years to keep the taxable income manageable each year. The key thing that helped me was calculating exactly how much I could convert each year while staying well under the SGA limit and avoiding the income thresholds that would make my SSDI taxable. It's definitely doable, but you really want to run the numbers carefully first. The peace of mind from having professional guidance was worth every penny!

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This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping to hear about! Thank you so much for sharing. Working with a CPA who specializes in disability benefits sounds like the way to go. Do you mind me asking roughly how much you were able to convert each year while staying safe? Just trying to get a ballpark idea of what "manageable chunks" might look like.

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This is really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through it! The idea of working with a CPA who specializes in disability benefits makes so much sense. I've been hesitant to move forward because there's so much conflicting information online, but having professional guidance specifically for SSDI recipients seems like the smart move. Did you find it difficult to locate a CPA with that specialty, or were you able to find one pretty easily?

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