Will 5 years without SS contributions reduce our benefits if collecting at FRA?
My husband and I both took early retirement at 60 after working high-income jobs (top tax bracket) for 25 years. We're now 62 and only earning about $22,500 each annually from rental properties. We're planning to wait until our full retirement age (67) to claim Social Security benefits. What's worrying me is whether these 5+ years without paying into Social Security will reduce our eventual benefits. I know SS uses your highest 35 years of earnings, but does having $0 earnings in the most recent years before claiming negatively impact the calculation? Are we making a mistake by not working part-time jobs just to keep contributing to the system? Any insights would be appreciated!
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Freya Christensen
You're fine! Social Security calculations use your highest 35 years of indexed earnings, regardless of when those years occurred. The 5 years of no contributions won't hurt you if you already have 25+ solid years of maximum or near-maximum contributions. SSA adjusts your past earnings for inflation (called indexing), so those high-earning years will count significantly. If you've contributed the maximum for 25 years, those zeros won't even enter your calculation as long as you have at least 10 other years with some earnings.
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Ravi Malhotra
•Thank you so much for explaining! That's a huge relief. So those 5 years of zeros won't drag down our benefit calculation? I was getting so worried we were making a costly mistake.
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Omar Farouk
wait ur prob overthinking this. my dad did something similar and hes fine. ss just looks at ur best 35 yrs so if u have good years already ur set
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Chloe Davis
Actually, this is something I was confused about too. One thing to understand is the difference between QUALIFYING for benefits (which requires 40 credits or about 10 years of work) versus the AMOUNT of benefits (based on highest 35 years). With 25 years of high earnings, you definitely qualify. But if you only have 25 years total of work, then 10 zeros will be averaged in. Each zero year does slightly lower your average, but probably not enough to justify working just for SS purposes if you don't need to or want to.
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Ravi Malhotra
•That's really helpful - so we do have about 30-32 years of total work (including some lower-paying years when we were younger), so we'll have fewer than 5 zeros factored in. Good to understand how it all works!
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AstroAlpha
I went through EXACTLY this situation with my spouse!!! We retired at 58, had maybe 28 years at max contributions. We worried about the same thing but when I used the SSA calculator on the website, I was shocked that those last few zero years barely made any difference. If you've paid in at the maximum for 25 years (and those years get indexed for inflation), you're probably already close to the maximum benefit anyway. There's a cap on how much you can get regardless of how much you paid in.
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Diego Chavez
•where do you find that calculator thing? i tried looking on ssa.gov but got lost in all the pages
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Anastasia Smirnova
This is a common misunderstanding about Social Security. The benefit calculation uses your highest 35 years of earnings, but those earnings are indexed to account for wage growth/inflation over time. If you had 25 years at the maximum taxable earnings amount, that's excellent, but your benefit calculation will include 10 years of zeros (or lower earnings from earlier in your career). However, here's the important part: working now just to avoid zeros in your calculation probably isn't worth it financially unless you can earn significantly more than your rental income. If you're each earning $22,500 now, that's likely lower than many of your previous 35 highest years (especially after indexing), so these years wouldn't even be counted in your top 35 anyway. You can check exactly where you stand by creating an account at ssa.gov and viewing your earnings record and benefit estimates.
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Ravi Malhotra
•Thank you! I've been meaning to create that account. If I understand correctly, these current lower-earning years won't even factor into our calculation because our previous 35 years include higher amounts even after indexing. That makes me feel much better about our decision.
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Diego Chavez
U should be fine BUT what about medicare?? Aren't there penalties if you don't sign up right when you turn 65? That's what scared me into signing up right away
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Freya Christensen
•Good point about Medicare! Yes, you need to sign up during your Initial Enrollment Period (3 months before your 65th birthday, your birthday month, and 3 months after) to avoid permanent penalties - even if you're not taking Social Security yet. This is separate from the Social Security earnings issue.
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Ravi Malhotra
•Oh! I hadn't even thought about the Medicare enrollment timing. Thanks for bringing that up - we'll make sure to sign up at 65 even though we're waiting until 67 for SS benefits.
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Sean O'Brien
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Ravi Malhotra
•Thanks for the tip! I've been avoiding calling because I've heard the wait times are horrible. I'll check out that service if I need specific answers about our situation that I can't find online.
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Chloe Davis
One more important point - since you're planning to claim at your Full Retirement Age of 67, you'll receive 100% of your primary insurance amount (PIA). But you could potentially increase your benefits by 8% per year if you delay beyond FRA up to age 70. Given your work history, this could be significant. Something to consider in your planning.
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AstroAlpha
•THIS!!! 👆 We're delaying to 70 because the 8% annual increase is guaranteed. With 25 years of max contributions, that extra 24% from delaying 67 to 70 could mean serious money over your lifetime.
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Ravi Malhotra
•We've definitely considered waiting until 70. Currently leaning toward 67 because we'd like to travel while we're still in good health, but the 8% per year is very tempting. We're fortunate to have other savings so maybe we can use those first and delay SS until 70.
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Omar Farouk
btw make sure u look at spousal benefits too...might be worth having lower earner take early and higher earner wait. thats what my parents did
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Anastasia Smirnova
•This strategy has changed since the 2015 budget act eliminated some file-and-suspend and restricted application options. Today, spousal benefits are automatically combined with your own retirement benefit, and you get the higher of the two amounts. Still worth calculating different claiming strategies though.
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