Social Security's 'round down' policy costing us money - anyone else noticed this?
Just got my benefit statement after finally claiming SS at 67 (my FRA) and noticed something that's bugging me. My monthly payment shows they 'rounded down to the nearest dollar' which made me lose 83 cents every month! Doesn't sound like much, but that's almost $10 a year they're just keeping. When I called to ask about this, the rep said it's standard procedure - they ALWAYS round down, never up. If they're doing this to all 71+ million beneficiaries, even if it averages just 50 cents per person, that's over $35 million monthly they're skimming off our benefits! Can you imagine if we tried telling the IRS we need to 'round down' on our tax payments? They'd audit us so fast! Why does SSA get to keep these fractions while we have to pay every penny to the government? Seems like a sneaky way to reduce benefits that nobody talks about.
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Ana Rusula
It's actually in the Social Security Act itself - benefits must be rounded down to the next lower dollar. Been that way since the beginning. I've worked with SS benefit calculations for years and while it seems unfair, it's literally written into the law. The actual calculation of your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) involves several rounding steps, and this final one is just part of the process.
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Noah huntAce420
•Thanks for explaining, but it still seems wrong. Why is it ALWAYS down? That means they're systematically paying less than they should to EVERY beneficiary. Doesn't seem right.
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Fidel Carson
omg i never noticed this!! just checked my direct deposit and yep they rounded down my 65 cents too!! how is this legal???
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Isaiah Sanders
•It's completely legal. Section 215(g) of the Social Security Act specifically states that benefits must be rounded down to the next lower dollar. It's been part of the program since 1939. While it may seem small individually, you're right that it adds up across all beneficiaries.
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Xan Dae
This happened to me too! I think they do it because its easier for their accounting or something. Probably some outdated system from when they started SS in the 1930s and couldn't handle pennies lol
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Fiona Gallagher
I understand your frustration, but there's actually a historical reason for this policy. When Social Security began, all calculations were done manually, and rounding down simplified the process. The law was written this way to make administration easier in a pre-computer era. Even though we now have computers that could easily calculate to the penny, changing this would require Congress to amend the Social Security Act. Given how carefully they guard every dollar in the trust fund, I doubt they'll change a policy that saves them money, even if it's technically our money. For what it's worth, when they calculate COLAs (Cost of Living Adjustments), those calculations are done on the full unrounded amount before the final rounded-down figure is determined. So at least the cents aren't completely ignored in future calculations.
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Noah huntAce420
•That makes sense about the historical reasons, but it seems like something they should update for modern times. Just feels like the government conveniently maintaining an outdated rule because it benefits them financially. And it's not just $35 million once - it's EVERY MONTH, year after year!
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Thais Soares
Has anyone tried ASKING for the full amount including cents?? Ive been on SSDI for 3 years and never even noticed this. im going to call tommorow and demand my 67 cents!!
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Fidel Carson
•good luck with that! i've been on hold with them for 3 hours today trying to fix a completely different issue. keep getting disconnected every time i finally reach the queue for a real person 😡
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Nalani Liu
I had the same frustration when trying to reach SSA about my own benefit calculation issue. After countless failed attempts and hours on hold, I found a service called Claimyr that got me through to an agent in about 20 minutes. They basically wait on hold for you and call you back when an agent is ready. Saved me so much frustration! If you want to see how it works, they have a video at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU and their site is claimyr.com Though honestly, even when you do get through, they'll just tell you the rounding down is required by law. I tried arguing about it but got nowhere. The agent explained it's actually written into the Social Security Act itself.
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Thais Soares
•Thanks for the tip! i'll check out that service. Even if i can't get my pennies back, I've got other issues i need to talk to them about anyway.
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Xan Dae
My uncle worked for the SSA for 30 years and he always said its just easier for their computer systems to not deal with change. Probably saves them millions in programming costs lol
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Isaiah Sanders
To clarify some misconceptions in this thread: 1. The rounding policy isn't about computer limitations or accounting simplicity - it's explicitly required by Section 215(g) of the Social Security Act 2. This policy predates computers and was implemented in 1939 3. The funds aren't "skimmed" in the sense of being separately collected - they simply remain in the Social Security Trust Fund 4. Changing this would require Congressional action to amend the Social Security Act 5. While it does add up to millions across all beneficiaries, it represents a tiny fraction of the total fund disbursements (less than 0.01%) While it may seem unfair that rounding always goes down, remember that many other government programs round to the nearest dollar (up or down). Social Security is somewhat unique in consistently rounding down.
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Noah huntAce420
•Thanks for the detailed explanation. I understand it better now, though I still don't like it! I wonder if anyone has ever tried to challenge this in court or get legislation introduced to change it?
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Fidel Carson
this reminds me of that office space movie where they took all the fractions of cents that got rounded off lol 😂 except this is the government doing it to us
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Ana Rusula
While the rounding down is frustrating, I'd suggest focusing on more significant aspects of your benefits. For example, make sure you've explored all possible benefits you're entitled to (spousal, survivor, etc.), and that your earnings record is accurate. Those factors can make a difference of hundreds of dollars monthly, compared to the cents lost to rounding. Also, ensure you understand how working affects benefits if you're still working, and how taxation of benefits works if you have other income. These factors have a much bigger impact on what you actually receive than the rounding issue.
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Noah huntAce420
•That's good advice. I did review my earnings record carefully before claiming, and I'm waiting until FRA to avoid any reductions. I guess I should focus on the bigger picture, but it still annoys me that they're systematically rounding down millions of payments every month when they could easily pay the exact amount.
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