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Monique Byrd

Social Security survivor benefits showing as 'suspended' - GPO repeal impact for teacher pension

I'm totally confused about my SS survivor benefits. I'm 85 and receive a non-covered pension from teaching for 35 years. My husband died 5 years ago after 62 years of marriage, and he had good SS earnings. At the time, I remember getting the $255 death benefit, but I can't recall if I applied for monthly survivor benefits or not. When I checked my SS account online (my granddaughter helped), it shows 'suspended' under benefits. Does that mean I did apply back then but wasn't eligible because of GPO? Now that GPO is being repealed, would I need to submit a new application? I'm worried I might be missing out on money that could really help with medical expenses.

Yes, 'suspended' typically means you applied for survivor benefits previously but they were affected by the Government Pension Offset (GPO). Since you receive a non-covered pension from your teaching career, the GPO would have reduced or eliminated your survivor benefits based on your husband's record. With the GPO repeal that was recently passed, you should definitely contact SSA to have your benefits reinstated. You don't need to submit a completely new application since you already have an established claim. The system should automatically review cases, but I would recommend being proactive.

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Monique Byrd

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Thank you! So i don't have to start over with paperwork? That's a relief. Do you know how long it might take for them to review my case? And will they pay retroactively from when the repeal takes effect?

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Lia Quinn

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The GPO repeal just passed but doesn't take effect immediately!! It's phased in from 2025 to 2027, so don't expect full benefits right away. First year is 1/3 of benefits, second year is 2/3, and only in third year you get full amount. Call ssa to understand timeline for YOUR specific situation.

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Monique Byrd

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Oh my goodness, I didn't realize it was phased in! So even if I contact them now, I wouldn't get the full amount until 2027? That seems so long to wait at my age.

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Haley Stokes

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my mom had the same thing happen!!! she taught for 40 years and her benefits said suspended too. we called last month and they said to wait until SSA sends out letters about the GPO changes because theyre still figuring it out. good luck!!

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Asher Levin

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That's so frustrating to be told to just wait. At 85 years old, every month matters. The SSA should prioritize seniors.

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Serene Snow

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I work with retired teachers, and the "suspended" status definitely confirms you applied for survivor benefits in the past. The SSA database maintains this status when benefits have been claimed but aren't currently being paid due to an offset or other reason. Regarding the GPO repeal implementation: 1. The phase-in begins January 2025 (33% of benefit) 2. Increases January 2026 (66% of benefit) 3. Full repeal January 2027 (100% of benefit) You don't need to reapply, but you should contact SSA before January to ensure your information is updated. They'll need current pension amount information to calculate your new survivor benefit. Based on your age (85), you might also ask if there are any expedited procedures for beneficiaries over 80, as some SSA processes have special handling for advanced age cases.

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I read somewhere that the SSA is supposed to be identifying affected beneficiaries automatically and sending out notices. But we all know how THAT goes...better to be proactive and contact them yourself.

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Romeo Barrett

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I struggled with the exact same issue trying to get my widower benefits after working for county government! The wait times to speak with someone at Social Security were impossible - I'd wait 2+ hours and then get disconnected. I finally found a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an agent in under 10 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU It was worth it because the agent confirmed I needed to provide updated pension information for my GPO recalculation and explained exactly what documents to bring to my in-person appointment. Saved me from making multiple trips.

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Monique Byrd

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Thank you for suggesting this! My arthritis makes it hard to hold the phone for long periods, and I've been disconnected twice already. I'll check out that website. I want to make sure I have everything ready when I call so they can help me right away.

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Asher Levin

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The GPO repeal is LONG overdue!!! My mother was a teacher for 38 years and lost nearly $1800/month in survivor benefits after my father passed. The whole thing was government theft from our educators and public servants. At least they're finally fixing it, even if it's too late for my mom.

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Totally agree! My aunt lost out on over $200k in lifetime benefits because of GPO. The phased implementation is just another slap in the face. They should make it retroactive to compensate for all those years of unfair treatment.

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Haley Stokes

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wait im confused...isn't GPO different from WEP? which one was repealed?

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Serene Snow

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They're related but different. GPO affects spouse/survivor benefits for people with non-covered pensions (like the original poster's teacher pension). WEP affects your own Social Security benefits if you have a non-covered pension. The recent legislation addresses the GPO only, not the WEP. So it only helps with survivor/spousal benefits, not with your own retirement benefits.

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One important thing to check: What's your current monthly pension amount? The GPO repeal will help the most for people whose pensions are relatively modest compared to potential survivor benefits. In 2025, you'll be eligible for 33% of your survivor benefit regardless of pension amount. By 2027, you'll get the full survivor benefit amount. For example, if your potential survivor benefit is $2,400 monthly based on your husband's record, in 2025 you'd receive about $800 (33%) monthly, in 2026 about $1,600 (66%), and by 2027 the full $2,400. I recommend requesting an official benefit estimate from SSA for the most accurate information.

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Monique Byrd

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My pension is about $2,250 per month. I think my husband's benefit was around $2,900 when he passed. So potentially this could make a significant difference for me! I'll definitely call SSA to get exact figures. Thank you for explaining this so clearly.

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Haley Stokes

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make sure u bring ur marriage certificate when u go to ssa!! my aunt had to reschedule her whole appointment because she forgot it and they wouldnt process anything without it even though shed been married 50+ years

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Monique Byrd

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That's a good reminder! I'll gather all my documents - marriage certificate, his death certificate, my pension statement, and my ID. Better to have too much than not enough.

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Serene Snow

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Since you've already been identified in the system with a "suspended" status, SSA should theoretically process your case automatically when the GPO phase-out begins. However, based on my experience helping clients with similar situations, I strongly recommend: 1. Call SSA at 1-800-772-1213 to verify they have your current contact information 2. Ask them to note in your record that you're affected by the GPO repeal 3. Request written confirmation of your expected benefit amount starting January 2025 4. If you have online access, check your mySSA account monthly starting in December The SSA is likely to be overwhelmed with these adjustments, so being proactive will help ensure you don't fall through the cracks.

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This is solid advice. My neighbor was told they'd "get to it eventually" when she called about her GPO situation. The squeaky wheel gets the grease with government agencies.

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As someone who went through a similar situation with my late spouse's benefits, I want to emphasize that you should also ask SSA about any retroactive payments when you call. While the GPO repeal phases in starting 2025, there may be provisions for back payments depending on when your benefits were originally suspended. Also, keep detailed records of every conversation with SSA - date, time, representative name, and what was discussed. With such a major policy change affecting thousands of beneficiaries, having documentation will be crucial if there are any processing delays or errors. At 85, you deserve to have this resolved quickly and efficiently. Don't hesitate to escalate to a supervisor if you're not getting clear answers about your timeline and benefit amounts.

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Caden Nguyen

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This is excellent advice about keeping detailed records! I'm new to this whole process and didn't realize how important documentation would be. I'll start a notebook to track all my calls and conversations. The retroactive payment question is something I hadn't thought about either - that could be significant given how long my benefits have been suspended. Thank you for mentioning the escalation option too. Sometimes us seniors feel like we have to just accept whatever we're told, but you're right that we deserve clear answers and timely service.

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Emily Sanjay

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I'm going through something very similar as a new widow at 78. My husband passed last year and I also have a teacher's pension that's been affecting my survivor benefits. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - especially learning about the phased implementation timeline. One thing I'd add is to also ask SSA about whether you're eligible for any Medicare premium reimbursements that might have been affected by GPO. Sometimes there are additional benefits tied to Social Security that people don't realize they're missing out on. Also, if you have trouble getting through on the phone, try calling right when they open at 7 AM local time. I've had better luck reaching someone quickly in those early morning hours. Good luck with everything - it sounds like this change could really make a difference for your financial situation!

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Ethan Brown

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Thank you for sharing your experience and I'm so sorry for your loss. The Medicare premium reimbursement is something I hadn't even considered - that's a great point to bring up when I call SSA. I really appreciate the tip about calling at 7 AM too. I'm usually up early anyway, so that timing works perfectly for me. It's comforting to know there are others going through similar situations, even though I wouldn't wish this confusing process on anyone. I hope your case gets resolved smoothly with the new changes coming. We shouldn't have to navigate all this bureaucracy during what's already a difficult time in our lives.

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Hazel Garcia

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I'm also a retired teacher (32 years) and had the exact same "suspended" status show up in my Social Security account after my husband passed three years ago. What helped me was calling SSA and asking them to send me a written statement showing exactly how much my survivor benefit would be without the GPO reduction. This gave me a clear picture of what I could expect once the repeal phases in. One thing that might be worth asking about - since you're 85 and the benefits have been suspended for 5 years, you may want to inquire if there's any expedited processing available for your age group or length of suspension. I've heard some offices have special procedures for cases involving very senior beneficiaries. Also, if you have any adult children, consider having one of them listed as an authorized representative on your SSA account. This can help if you need someone to follow up on the case or handle paperwork. The whole process can be overwhelming, but don't let that discourage you from pursuing what you're rightfully owed.

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Paolo Longo

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Thank you so much for this helpful advice! I hadn't thought about asking for a written statement showing what my benefit would be without GPO - that's brilliant and will help me understand exactly what to expect. The idea about having my granddaughter (who helped me set up the online account) become an authorized representative is also really smart. She's been so patient helping me navigate all this technology and paperwork. I'm definitely going to ask about expedited processing for my age group when I call - at 85, every month really does matter for my financial situation. It's reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same thing. Thank you for encouraging me to pursue what I'm owed - sometimes it feels intimidating dealing with government agencies, but you're absolutely right.

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Hugo Kass

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I want to echo what others have said about being proactive with SSA. As a newcomer to this community, I've been reading through these discussions and it's clear that the "suspended" status means you did apply previously but GPO blocked your benefits. One additional suggestion - when you call SSA, ask specifically about Form SSA-2032 (Application for Widow's or Widower's Insurance Benefits). Since your application is already in the system but suspended, they may just need to update your pension information and flag your case for the GPO repeal review rather than having you complete entirely new paperwork. Also, given that you mentioned medical expenses as a concern, you might want to ask if there are any hardship provisions that could expedite your case review. While the phased implementation is set by law, sometimes there are administrative processes that can help prioritize cases for seniors with documented financial hardship. Best of luck with your call - it sounds like this change could provide meaningful financial relief for you!

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Sasha Reese

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Thank you for mentioning Form SSA-2032 - that's exactly the kind of specific information I need! I'll ask about that form when I call so I sound informed about the process. The hardship provision angle is also worth exploring given my medical expenses. As a newcomer myself to navigating all this, I really appreciate how helpful everyone in this community has been. It's overwhelming trying to understand all these rules and forms, but knowing there might be ways to expedite the process gives me hope. I'm going to write down all these suggestions before I call SSA so I don't forget to ask about everything. It's amazing how much I've learned just from this one discussion thread!

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Nia Jackson

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As someone new to this community, I want to thank everyone for sharing such detailed and helpful information! Reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational for those of us trying to navigate the GPO changes. I'd like to add one more resource that might be helpful - many local Area Agencies on Aging have benefits counselors who specialize in Social Security issues and can provide free assistance with understanding these changes. They're often more accessible than trying to get through to SSA directly and can help you prepare for your call with all the right questions and documents. Also, for anyone feeling overwhelmed by all this information, consider printing out or writing down the key points from this discussion thread. Having a reference sheet when you call SSA can help ensure you don't forget to ask about important details like Form SSA-2032, expedited processing for seniors, hardship provisions, or getting that written benefit estimate. The GPO repeal is a huge victory for public servants and their families - don't let the bureaucratic process discourage you from claiming what you've rightfully earned!

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