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Social Security spousal benefits denied at 62 despite WEP/GPO repeal - confused about reason

I'm scratching my head over a quick denial for spousal benefits that I just received. Applied online to start receiving in May 2025 when I turn 62, thinking I'd be eligible since the WEP and GPO repeal goes into effect then. Got denied within a week! While I appreciate not having to wait months for an answer, I'm totally confused about why I was denied. They're sending an explanation in 10-15 business days, but I'm anxious now. Anyone have insights on common denial reasons? I'm wondering if they just looked at my work record (I'm 4 quarters short of qualifying on my own) and automatically denied me without considering I was applying for SPOUSAL benefits? Background: My husband started collecting his SS at full retirement age. I've been on a pension since 56 (left my teaching job early) and only do occasional part-time work that's nowhere near any earnings limit. Is there something obvious I'm missing here??

Several things could have happened here. First, make sure you specifically applied for spousal benefits and not retirement benefits on your own record. Many people check the wrong box. Second, if your husband's benefit amount is very low, your spousal benefit might be too small to be payable (needs to be at least $1 after reduction for age). Third, they might be confused about the WEP/GPO repeal timing - even though it's passed, some SSA offices are still catching up on implementation details. I'd recommend calling SSA directly to get clarification rather than waiting for the letter. Ask specifically what caused the denial and what your options are now.

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Thanks for these insights! I'm POSITIVE I applied for spousal benefits and not my own (triple-checked those boxes). My husband's benefit is decent ($2,600/month) so I should be eligible for something around $1,300 before the age reduction. I'm starting to wonder if maybe they're confused about the WEP/GPO implementation like you suggested. I'll try calling but we all know how that goes... *sigh*

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same thing happened to my sister!!! they denied her out of nowhere and then when she called they said she filled something out wrong on the form. make sure you put your husbands social security number in the application!! also they kept telling her something about "deemed filing" whatever that is

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Deemed filing is important here. Under current rules, when you file for any benefit at age 62-FRA, you're "deemed" to be filing for ALL benefits you're eligible for. So the system automatically considers both your own record and spousal benefits, then gives you whichever is higher. It's possible the system calculated your spousal benefit with the age reduction (at 62, that's about a 30% reduction), compared it to your own record, and determined you weren't eligible for either. Or there could be a system error related to the WEP/GPO repeal timing.

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Wait, I thought WEP and GPO weren't fully repealed? Didn't they just modify them or phase them out gradually or something? I keep hearing different things about this.

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The Social Security Protection and Freedom to Work Act of 2023 fully repeals both WEP and GPO effective May 1, 2025. So the OP is correct that by the time she turns 62 in May 2025, these penalties should no longer apply to her pension. It's not a gradual phase-out - it's a complete repeal with a specific effective date. But that might be exactly the issue here - the SSA systems might not be fully updated to handle applications that straddle the implementation date.

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I've been fighting with SSA for MONTHS about my own benefits, and I'll tell you what the problem is - THEY DON'T KNOW THEIR OWN RULES!! Every time I call I get a different answer. I had THREE different agents tell me three completely different things about my widow's benefits. The whole system is a disaster and they're just randomly denying people hoping they won't appeal. DON'T wait for the letter. Call them NOW and demand answers!!

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I think there might be some confusion about your eligibility based on the timing of your application versus when you actually want benefits to begin. When you apply for benefits with a future start date, SSA processes it differently than an immediate claim. Here's what I'd suggest: 1) Call and specifically ask if they processed your application as a current claim or a future-dated claim 2) Verify they understand you're applying for spousal benefits to start in May 2025 when you turn 62 3) Ask if the WEP/GPO repeal was factored into their decision Also, make sure there's no issue with your marriage duration. You must be married at least 12 months to qualify for spousal benefits in most cases.

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We've been married 35 years, so that's definitely not the issue! Your suggestion about current vs. future-dated claim makes a LOT of sense. I bet they processed it as if I wanted benefits now (which I obviously don't qualify for yet since I'm not 62). I'll definitely ask about this when I call. Thank you!

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could it be bcuz of your pension?? my friend got denied bcuz she had a state pension and they said something about offset rules

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That's the Government Pension Offset (GPO) the OP mentioned. Currently, if you receive a pension from work where you didn't pay Social Security taxes (like many state and local government positions), your Social Security spousal benefits can be reduced by 2/3 of your pension amount. However, as mentioned, the GPO is being repealed effective May 2025, which is when the OP is planning to claim benefits. So while this would have been an issue in the past, it shouldn't be for a May 2025 claim. This is likely part of the confusion in the denial.

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Update: I finally got through to Social Security after calling repeatedly for two days. Turns out they processed my application as if I wanted benefits NOW instead of in May 2025! The agent said their system isn't set up yet to handle applications that involve the WEP/GPO repeal date. She suggested I reapply in January 2025, closer to when I actually want benefits to begin. Frustrating, but at least I have an answer now. Thanks everyone for your help!

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That makes perfect sense! The SSA systems are still catching up with the legislative changes. One suggestion: when you reapply in January, make a note in the remarks section specifically mentioning that you're applying for spousal benefits to begin May 2025 in accordance with the WEP/GPO repeal. Also, consider making an appointment with your local office for the application rather than doing it online - they can flag it properly in the system. Glad you got it sorted out! And remember you can apply up to 4 months before your intended start date, so January is perfect timing for a May benefit start.

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Thanks for the tip! If I have more issues when I reapply in January, I'll definitely check out that service. The calling process is absolutely maddening - spent hours just trying to get past the busy signals.

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so will u get back pay from when u first applied or do u have to start over?

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There's no backpay issue here since the OP is applying for future benefits that wouldn't start until May 2025 when she turns 62. Since that date hasn't occurred yet, there's no backpay to receive. The denied application doesn't affect her protected filing date since the benefits wouldn't have started yet anyway. When she reapplies in January 2025, it will be a completely new application for benefits to begin in May 2025. No backpay involved since it's a prospective benefit.

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