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Can my husband apply for reduced spousal benefits after new WEP/GPO changes - confused about start date

I need advice about my husband's spousal benefits after the recent WEP/GPO changes. I started collecting my Social Security at 62 last year (probably not the smartest move but needed the income). My husband has worked for the postal service since he was 22 and doesn't have enough quarters for his own SS benefit, but now with the new law changes to WEP/GPO, we're thinking spousal benefits make sense for him. I understand his spousal benefit will always be reduced because I started collecting early at 62 - is that correct? Since this finally makes financial sense, we want to apply right away, but I'm confused about what date to put as his start date. Can they backdate his application 6 months, or is that retroactive payment only available for people at Full Retirement Age? I'm 63 now and he's 64 if that matters for the calculation. Any advice on timing or what date to use on the application would be really helpful!

Ravi Gupta

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Yes, you're correct that your husband's spousal benefit will be permanently reduced because you filed for your retirement benefits before your FRA. The reduction is based on YOUR age when YOU filed, not his age when he files for spousal benefits. Regarding retroactive benefits: The 6-month retroactive payment option is available for spousal benefits even if the person is under FRA, but they only backdate to the first month you were entitled to receive benefits. Since your husband is becoming eligible because of the recent GPO reform, they likely won't backdate before the law's effective date (January 2025). I'd recommend using his current application date as the start date and letting SSA determine if any retroactive benefits apply based on the new law's implementation. The agent will know how to handle this specific situation with the GPO changes.

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Isabella Santos

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Thank you for explaining! So even though he's under FRA, he could potentially get some retroactive benefits, but probably not before the law went into effect. That makes sense. I was worried we might lose money if I put the wrong start date on the application.

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GalacticGuru

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My wife went thru something simlar with her ex-husbands benefits last yr. SSA told us just put TODAY'S date for start date & they figure out when your eligible from. don't stress about it

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Isabella Santos

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That's reassuring! I overthink everything with SSA because I'm afraid of making mistakes that might cost us benefits. Sounds like I should just submit the application and let them determine the eligibility dates.

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Freya Pedersen

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The new GPO reform is a game-changer for many federal/postal employees. Your understanding is mostly correct, but let me clarify a few things: 1) Your husband's spousal benefit will be reduced because YOU filed early, as you noted. The reduction is approximately 30% if you filed at exactly 62. 2) For the start date, it's actually best to put the earliest date you want benefits to begin. If he's eligible for retroactive benefits, they'll automatically calculate that, but you should still request the earliest date you believe he's eligible. 3) Important: Since the GPO reform has phased implementation, his spousal benefit will still be partially affected by GPO in 2025 (80% of the previous reduction applies). This phases down by 20% each year until fully eliminated in 2029. 4) Also make sure his postal pension information is accurately documented on the application, as this affects how the transitional GPO rules apply. You're making the right decision to apply now given the law changes!

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Omar Fawaz

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I didn't know the GPO reform was phased! So they don't get the full benefit right away? My mother-in-law is in a similar situation with a teacher's pension, wondering if we should wait to apply until it's fully phased in?

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Freya Pedersen

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To respond to the question about phasing - no, don't wait to apply. Even with the phased reduction, most people will still receive more benefits now than without applying. Apply as soon as eligible and you'll automatically receive the increasing amounts as the GPO reduction phases out each year through 2029.

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Isabella Santos

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This phased implementation is news to me too! I thought the GPO was just eliminated immediately. I need to learn more about this to make sure we're maximizing his benefit. Do you know if there's a specific place on the SSA website that explains the phased implementation? I couldn't find clear information when I looked.

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Chloe Anderson

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my situation is kinda similar except im the one with postal pension (37 years) and my wife gets SS. we were told by a friend that postal pensions DONT QUALIFY for the new GPO changes!!!! anyone know if thats right? im so confused

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Ravi Gupta

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Your friend is incorrect. The GPO reform applies to Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) pensions, which includes postal workers. If you're under CSRS, you definitely qualify for the GPO phase-out. If you're under the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS), you were already exempt from GPO. You should apply if you're eligible for spousal benefits!

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Diego Vargas

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I'm going through EXACTLY this with my husband's firefighter pension!!! The SSA people gave us THREE different answers about backdating. ONE said 6 months max, another said only at FRA, and third one said we could get benefits from when the law changed in January!!! SO FRUSTRATING!!! I think they don't even know their own rules with these new changes!!!

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Isabella Santos

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That's exactly what I'm afraid of! Getting different answers depending on who we talk to. I guess we'll just have to submit the application and hope for the best. Please let me know what happens with your husband's application if you don't mind sharing!

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Omar Fawaz

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has anyone actually received increased benefits from this GPO change yet? my mom has a teacher pension and we applied in february but her check hasnt changed

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Freya Pedersen

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The systems at SSA are still being updated to fully implement the GPO changes. Many people who applied early in the year are seeing delayed processing. If your mom applied in February, I recommend checking the status of her application online through her mySocialSecurity account or contacting SSA directly. Some payments may also include retroactive adjustments when they finally process.

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Isabella Santos

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Update: We submitted the application yesterday and put the current date as the start date. The claims specialist said they will determine if any retroactive benefits apply based on the new law. She also confirmed that his benefit will increase gradually over the next few years as the GPO phases out, starting with 20% this year. Thank you all for your helpful advice!

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GalacticGuru

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Glad it worked out! Let us know when he gets his first payment and how much it ends up being. Curious about the actual amounts with the new changes

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Ravi Gupta

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That's great news! You did exactly the right thing. And yes, the benefit will increase by about 20% of the original GPO reduction each year until fully phased out in 2029. Congratulations on maximizing your household's Social Security benefits!

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