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Social Security delay of spousal benefits due to GPO repeal - retro payments and DRCs questions

Hi everyone, I'm confused about timing for my husband's application now that the GPO repeal is happening. I have a phone appointment with SSA on 2/14/25 to discuss everything but wanted some advice beforehand. I've been eligible for my own retirement benefits for a while (turning 69 next month) but delayed claiming to earn delayed retirement credits. My husband gets a pension from teaching for 25 years and now that GPO won't impact him, he can get spousal benefits based on my record. Here's where I'm confused: Should we wait until my benefits are fully approved before he submits his spousal application? We're thinking of requesting retroactive benefits to 1/1/25 for both of us. If we do that, will SSA calculate my benefit amount based on my age at 68 (I turned 68 on 1/18/24) or will they use what I would've gotten at 67 years and 11 months? I've never been clear if benefits increase monthly or just once a year when you delay past FRA. Really appreciate any insights - this GPO repeal has changed our retirement strategy completely!

Your benefits increase monthly after FRA, not yearly. Each month u delay gives u 2/3 of 1% more (8% per year total). For retroactive, they always use your age at the time you're deemed to have filed. So for 1/1/25, they'd use 67 yrs + 11 months for calculation.

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James Johnson

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Thanks! So if I understand correctly, filing with a retroactive date of 1/1/25 will give me slightly less than waiting until my appointment date in February? Is the difference worth worrying about? It's only about 6 weeks difference.

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Mia Green

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Your husband should definitely wait until your application is fully processed and approved before submitting his spousal application. This ensures there's an established earnings record in the system for SSA to properly calculate his spousal benefit. Regarding your delayed retirement credits (DRCs), Social Security increases your benefit by 2/3 of 1% for each month you delay beyond FRA, up to age 70. This is a monthly calculation, not annual. For retroactive benefits, you're correct to consider the timing carefully. If you request retroactive benefits to 1/1/25, your benefit amount will be calculated based on your exact age at that point (67 years, 11 months), meaning you'd receive slightly less than if you filed effective February. The difference is approximately 1.33% of your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount). Rather than retroactive, you might want to consider protective filing dates for both applications, which preserves your higher DRC amount while establishing your intent to file.

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James Johnson

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Thank you for such a detailed explanation! I hadn't considered using protective filing dates rather than retroactive filing. That's something I'll definitely bring up during my phone appointment. Would my husband also use a protective filing date or would he just apply once my application is approved?

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Emma Bianchi

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congrats on the GPO repeal helping you guys! my parents are in the same boat. teacher pension + ss has been a mess for years

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Lucas Kowalski

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To add a slightly different perspective - if your income needs aren't immediate, you might consider waiting until you turn 70 to maximize your retirement benefit, which would also maximize the potential spousal benefit for your husband (up to 50% of your PIA). The GPO repeal is certainly advantageous, but optimal claiming strategies still matter. Your husband's spousal benefit will be based on your PIA (the amount you would receive at your FRA), not on your age-70 increased amount. So the delayed retirement credits you're earning increase your benefit but not his. If you're set on filing soon, I agree with the previous poster that your husband should wait until your benefit is established before applying for spousal benefits. The system needs a primary beneficiary record to calculate against.

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thats not totally right. spouse gets 50% of PIA regardless of when the worker files. if she waits til 70 she gets more but her husband still only gets 50% of her PIA (what she would've got at FRA). waiting doesnt help the spousal part

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Lucas Kowalski

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You're right - I should have been clearer. Her delayed retirement credits don't increase his spousal benefit, which is capped at 50% of her PIA (her FRA amount). I've edited my comment to clarify this point. Thank you for the correction.

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Olivia Martinez

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Olivia Martinez

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Grace Patel

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whatever u do DONT try to handle both applications at once!!! SSA made SUCH a mess of our paperwork when my husband and I tried to do something similar. they kept mixing up our applications and we had to restart the WHOLE PROCESS!!! 😫

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James Johnson

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Oh no, that sounds like a nightmare! Did you eventually get it all sorted out? How long did the whole process take you?

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Grace Patel

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took almost 5 MONTHS to fix everything!!! my advice: do your application first, wait till its processed (check your MySSA account), THEN have hubby submit his. keep copies of EVERYTHING!!!!

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Mia Green

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One important detail that hasn't been mentioned yet: Since your husband will be applying for spousal benefits based on your record, and you're considering retroactive benefits to 1/1/25, be aware that the retroactive filing date for spousal benefits can only be approved if the primary beneficiary (you) has already established entitlement for that period. In other words, if you apply with a retroactive date of 1/1/25, your husband could potentially receive spousal benefits retroactive to that same date once your application is processed. However, if you were to file with a current-month application instead of retroactive, your husband couldn't receive benefits for any months before your entitlement begins. This is why the sequencing matters so much. The primary beneficiary must establish entitlement first, then the spouse can claim against that record.

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Emma Bianchi

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this is why ss is so confusing! so many little rules that can cost you thousands if you don't know them

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Charlie Yang

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WAIT!! Did I miss something?? I thought GPO repeal doesn't start until 2027!! Have they changed something?? My wife gets state pension and I've been planning for GPO to affect her SS for years. If this is actually happening in 2025 we need to change all our plans!!!!

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Mia Green

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You're thinking of a proposed GPO repeal bill that hasn't passed. The original poster appears to be referring to a hypothetical scenario or may be confused about current law. As of now, GPO is still in effect and there's no legislation that has officially passed to repeal it in 2025. You should continue planning based on current law unless legislation changes.

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Charlie Yang

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Oh thank goodness I didn't miss something major! We've been planning around GPO for so long it would be amazing if it was repealed but also throw off all our calculations. Thanks for clarifying!

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James Johnson

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Thank you all for the helpful advice! I'm going to ask about protective filing dates versus retroactive benefits during my appointment. I think I'll proceed with my application first and then have my husband apply once mine is processed, as several of you suggested. The monthly increase for delayed retirement credits makes sense now - I always thought it might be annual which would have made a January filing date exactly the same as waiting until February. Knowing it's monthly makes the calculation clearer. I'm also going to double-check about this GPO repeal timing since someone raised questions about that. I may have misunderstood something my financial advisor told me about pending legislation.

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