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Ana Erdoğan

Social Security self-employment 45-hour limit - does it apply to low-income transcription work?

Hey there SS experts! I finally took the plunge and retired from my factory job last month, but I'm keeping my side hustle as an independent transcriptionist to supplement my Social Security retirement benefits. I know about the earnings test limit (around $22,320 for 2025 since I'm under FRA), and I'll stay well below that. But I just discovered there's apparently a 45-hour per month limit for self-employed people? This has me worried because even though my hourly earnings are pretty low ($15-17/hour for transcription), I sometimes put in 60+ hours a month during busy periods. Does this 45-hour rule apply to all self-employed people, or just professionals like doctors and lawyers making big money? I'm trying to stay compliant but also need this extra income. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation with low-paying self-employment after retirement?

The 45-hour rule is part of the Social Security Administration's "substantial services" test for self-employed individuals. It's one of three tests they use to determine if you're actually retired. Here's how it works: 1. If you work over 45 hours monthly in a business that requires significant skill (professional services), you're providing substantial services 2. If you work 15 hours or less, you're definitely not providing substantial services 3. If you work between 15-45 hours, they look at other factors Good news for you: transcription work at $15-17/hour likely won't be considered a "significant skill" professional service like lawyers, doctors, etc. As long as you stay under the earnings limit, you should be fine even if you occasionally go over 45 hours. The SSA is mainly concerned with high-earners trying to circumvent the earnings test.

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Thank you so much for explaining this clearly! That's a relief to hear. Do you know if I need to keep track of my hours and report them somewhere, or is the SSA really just looking at my earnings?

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When i retired in 2023 I kept my bookkeeping business and had the SAME EXACT WORRY!! I called SSA three times and got three different answers about the 45 hour rule. One rep said it applied to me, another said it didn't since i wasnt a doctor/lawyer, and the third said it depended on my skill level?!?! USELESS!!! In the end I just made sure to stay under the earnings limit and no one ever asked about my hours. Been getting my full SS check for 2 years with no problems.

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That's so frustrating but also reassuring to hear I'm not alone in this confusion! Sounds like focusing on the earnings limit is the safer bet. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Yes, the 45-hour rule is primarily concerned with highly skilled professionals who might try to manipulate their income while still working substantial hours. The SSA is looking at three factors: 1. Monthly hours worked (the 45-hour threshold) 2. Nature of services (professional/skilled vs. routine work) 3. Comparison to pre-retirement work For transcription work, you're in what SSA calls "non-highly skilled" self-employment. As long as you stay under the annual earnings limit ($22,320 in 2025 if you're under FRA), the hours aren't likely to trigger a review. Focus on reporting accurate earnings on your tax return. One important note: Make sure you're calculating your net earnings correctly for Social Security purposes. For self-employment, it's your net profit (gross income minus business expenses) multiplied by 0.9235.

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This is SO confusing. So transcription work isn't considered skilled?? I thought anything where you need special training counts as skilled. What about other work-from-home jobs like virtual assistants or data entry? Where does SSA draw the line?????

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It's not that transcription isn't skilled - it's that SSA distinguishes between what they call "significant services" (doctors, lawyers, accountants, consultants) and other self-employment. For your question about virtual assistants or data entry, the same principle applies - they're looking at the combination of hours, income, and whether it's the type of high-income professional service where people might try to manipulate the rules. The earnings test is still the primary factor for most people.

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I did medical coding from home after I retired and worried about this too. My neighbor who worked at SS told me it's all about the $$$, not the hours, for most of us regular folks.

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Yep this is right. My brother works for SSA and says they only care about the hours for lawyers doctors etc who might be hiding income.

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When I tried calling SSA to ask about self-employment hours, I sat on hold for TWO HOURS and then got disconnected!! Tried again next day, another 90 minutes wasted. Tried a third time and gave up after 45 minutes. The whole system is BROKEN. How are we supposed to follow the rules when we can't even get answers?? I'm just staying under the earnings limit and hoping for the best.

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Wait I'm confused about something else now. You mentioned the earnings limit is $22,320 for 2025, but I thought it was $21,240? Did it go up again? I'm turning 64 next year and planning to start my benefits while still working part-time at the library, so I need to be super careful about this limit!!!

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The earnings limit is adjusted annually for inflation. For 2024, it's $21,240 for those under FRA. The $22,320 figure for 2025 is a reasonable estimate based on typical COLA increases, but the official 2025 amount won't be announced until later this year. For planning purposes, it's always better to underestimate what you can earn rather than cutting it too close to the limit.

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Thanks everyone for your helpful advice! I feel much better about this situation now. I'm going to focus on staying under the annual earnings limit and not worry too much about the hours since my transcription work isn't considered a high-skill professional service. I'll keep good records of my income and expenses to be safe. Really appreciate all of you taking time to share your knowledge and experiences!

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That's the right approach. Just make sure you're tracking your business income and expenses carefully for your Schedule C and SE tax forms. Self-employment income counts as 92.35% of your net profit when calculating the earnings test limit. Good luck with your retirement and transcription work!

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Great discussion here! As someone who just started collecting Social Security while doing freelance web design, I was also worried about the 45-hour rule. After reading through all these responses and doing my own research, it seems like the key takeaway is that SSA uses the "substantial services" test mainly for high-earning professionals who might be gaming the system. For most of us doing regular freelance or part-time work, staying under the annual earnings limit is what really matters. I've been keeping a simple spreadsheet tracking both my hours and income just to be safe, but it sounds like the income tracking is the critical part. Thanks Ana for asking this question - it's clearly something a lot of us new retirees are confused about!

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This whole thread has been so enlightening! As someone who's been lurking in this community for a while but never posted, I finally felt compelled to jump in. I'm planning to retire in about 6 months and have been absolutely terrified about navigating all these Social Security rules while trying to keep some income coming in. The fact that so many of you have shared your real experiences - especially hearing that people have been successfully collecting benefits while doing similar work - gives me so much confidence. I love that you're keeping a spreadsheet tracking both hours and income, that seems like the smartest approach even if the hours might not matter as much. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion!

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I just started my Social Security benefits last month and have been doing occasional freelance editing work from home. Like many of you, I was completely confused about the 45-hour rule and whether it applied to my situation. After reading all these responses, it's clear that the SSA is primarily targeting high-income professionals with this rule, not people like us doing regular freelance work. The consensus seems to be: stay under the annual earnings limit, keep good records of your income, and don't stress too much about the hours unless you're a doctor or lawyer making serious money. I really appreciate everyone sharing their real-world experiences - it's so much more helpful than trying to decode the official SSA publications! This community is a goldmine of practical advice.

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Welcome to the community Emma! I'm also pretty new here but this thread has been incredibly helpful. What struck me most is how many people called SSA and got different answers each time - it really shows why communities like this are so valuable for getting real-world experiences. I'm curious about your editing work - do you find clients through platforms like Upwork or do you have regular clients? I'm thinking about branching out from just transcription once I get more comfortable with the Social Security rules. It's reassuring to hear from so many people who are successfully managing the transition from full-time work to retirement with some side income!

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This is such a valuable discussion! I'm a newcomer here but have been dealing with similar concerns since I started collecting Social Security benefits while continuing my freelance graphic design work. What really resonates with me from everyone's experiences is that the SSA seems to apply the 45-hour rule very selectively - mainly for high-earning professionals who might be trying to work around the system. For those of us doing creative freelance work (transcription, editing, design, etc.) at modest hourly rates, the annual earnings limit appears to be the real guardrail. I've been meticulously tracking both hours and income since I started benefits, but after reading this thread, I feel much more confident focusing primarily on staying under that earnings threshold. Thanks to Ana for starting this conversation and to everyone who shared their real-world experiences - it's exactly what those of us navigating this transition need to hear!

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This thread has been such a lifesaver! I'm brand new to this community and to Social Security - just filed my application last week and planning to start benefits in a couple months while keeping my small tutoring business going. Reading everyone's experiences has really put my mind at ease about the whole 45-hour thing. It sounds like the SSA is really targeting those high-earning professionals who might try to game the system, not folks like us doing modest freelance work. I love that so many of you are tracking both hours and income just to be safe - that seems like the smartest approach even if the hours don't end up mattering much for our type of work. Carter, your point about focusing on the earnings threshold really resonates with me. Thanks Ana for asking the question we were all thinking, and thanks everyone for sharing your real experiences instead of just regurgitating the confusing official rules!

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As someone who's been navigating Social Security benefits while doing freelance work for the past year, I can definitely relate to the confusion around the 45-hour rule! What I've learned from my own experience (and confirmed by reading this great discussion) is that the SSA really does focus this rule on high-earning professionals - doctors, lawyers, consultants - who might try to manipulate their reported income while still working substantial hours in lucrative practices. For those of us doing freelance work like transcription, editing, tutoring, or other services at modest hourly rates, the annual earnings limit is definitely the main thing to worry about. I do freelance writing and translation work, and I've been over 45 hours several months without any issues from SSA. What matters is that I stay well under that annual earnings threshold. One practical tip I'd add: I use a simple spreadsheet to track both my monthly hours and cumulative earnings throughout the year. Even though the hours probably don't matter for my type of work, it gives me peace of mind and helps me pace my work to stay under the earnings limit. The spreadsheet also makes tax time much easier! Ana, it sounds like you're taking exactly the right approach - focus on that earnings limit and don't stress too much about the hours for transcription work. Welcome to the retirement-with-side-hustle club!

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Thanks Jacob for that practical tip about the spreadsheet! I'm definitely going to set one up to track both hours and earnings - that sounds like the perfect way to stay organized and have peace of mind. It's so reassuring to hear from someone who's actually been doing this for a year and going over 45 hours without issues. The "retirement-with-side-hustle club" - I love that! It's exactly what I needed to hear as I navigate this new phase. Thanks for the warm welcome and for confirming that focusing on the earnings limit is the right approach for folks like us doing regular freelance work.

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for this incredibly helpful discussion! I just started collecting Social Security benefits two months ago while continuing my part-time virtual bookkeeping services, and I've been losing sleep over this exact 45-hour rule question. What's really striking to me is how consistent everyone's experiences are - the SSA seems to apply this rule primarily to high-earning professionals, not folks doing regular freelance or service work at modest rates. It's such a relief to hear from Jacob and others who've actually been working over 45 hours without issues, as long as they stay under the annual earnings limit. I love the practical advice about tracking both hours and income in a spreadsheet. Even though the hours might not matter for our type of work, having that documentation seems like smart protection. Plus it'll make tax prep so much easier! Ana, your original question was spot-on and clearly resonated with so many of us navigating this confusing transition. It's amazing how much clearer things become when you hear real experiences instead of trying to parse the official SSA language. Thanks to everyone who shared - this thread should be required reading for anyone doing freelance work while collecting benefits!

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Andre, you're absolutely right about this thread being required reading! As someone completely new to both this community and Social Security benefits, I was honestly panicking about the 45-hour rule until I found this discussion. What really stands out to me is how many people called SSA directly and got totally different answers each time - that alone shows why real-world experiences from people like Jacob and others are so much more valuable than the confusing official documentation. I'm planning to start my Social Security application next month while keeping my freelance proofreading work, and this thread has given me the confidence to move forward. The spreadsheet tracking idea is brilliant - I'm definitely setting that up from day one. Thanks Ana for asking the question we all needed answered, and thanks to everyone who shared their actual experiences!

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As someone who's new to this community and just beginning to navigate the Social Security landscape, I can't thank everyone enough for this incredibly thorough and reassuring discussion! I'm planning to file for benefits in the next few months while continuing my freelance consulting work (business process improvement for small companies), and I've been absolutely terrified about the 45-hour rule. What really strikes me from reading everyone's experiences is the clear pattern: SSA seems to focus this rule on high-income professionals like doctors and lawyers who might manipulate the system, not regular freelancers doing modest-paying work. The fact that multiple people got different answers when calling SSA directly just confirms how valuable these real-world experiences are compared to trying to decode official policy documents. I'm definitely taking Jacob's advice about the spreadsheet tracking - that seems like the perfect way to stay organized and have documentation, even if the hours don't end up mattering for our type of work. The annual earnings limit appears to be the real guardrail we need to focus on. Ana, thank you for having the courage to ask the question so many of us were thinking but afraid to voice. This thread has transformed my anxiety into confidence about managing the transition to retirement with continued freelance income. You've created something that should honestly be pinned as essential reading for anyone in our situation!

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