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Social Security earnings limit for self-employed CIC recipients in 2024 - how much?

I started getting Child-in-Care (CIC) benefits last year after my husband passed away. I run a small Etsy shop from home, which gives me flexibility to care for our kids. I'm confused about how much I can earn in 2024 without losing my benefits. Is there a different earnings limit for self-employed people versus regular employees? My sister-in-law said something about net vs. gross income counting differently, and now I'm totally confused about what SSA actually counts for self-employment when you're collecting survivor benefits with children in care. Anyone know the specific 2024 limits?

For 2024, the earnings limit for CIC benefits (Child-in-Care) is $22,320 per year. This applies whether you're traditionally employed or self-employed. However, there is a difference in how income is counted. For self-employment, SSA looks at your net earnings (after business expenses), not gross income. So you'll need to subtract your legitimate business expenses from your Etsy sales before comparing to the limit. Also remember that only the months you exceed 1/12 of that annual limit (about $1,860 per month) would be affected.

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Thank you! That helps so much. So to be clear, if my Etsy shop brings in $30,000 but I have $10,000 in legitimate business expenses, then my countable income would be $20,000 and I'd be under the limit? Do I need to spread my income evenly throughout the year or can I have some months higher than others?

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when my husband died i was self employed too and i got confused about all this. they look at NET not GROSS for self employment. so yeah all your supplies and shipping and fees subtract from the total. the limit goes up every year so its different from last year.

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Ya and also if you go over in one month but stay under in others they only take away benefits for that one month. SSA doesn't look at the whole year at once, they look month by month. Been there done that!

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I went through the EXACT same thing last year! Self-employed with CIC benefits after my husband died in 2022. Let me tell you, tracking everything is SO IMPORTANT. Social Security will want to see proof of your expenses if they audit you. I keep every single receipt, use accounting software, and maintain separate business accounts. The 2024 limit is higher than 2023, so that's good news at least.

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That's really good advice about keeping everything separate. I've been mixing personal and business purchases and now I'm worried about proving what was what. Did you have to submit anything special to SSA as a self-employed person? Or do they just go by what you report on your taxes?

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My neighbor collects these benefits and she said something about SSA not counting the first $1 of every $2 you earn or something?? Is that right? I thought there was just a cutoff amount where you lose everything.

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That's slightly different. For CIC benefits, if you earn over the annual limit ($22,320 for 2024), SSA will deduct $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above that limit. They don't cut off benefits entirely all at once. It's a graduated reduction. And it's calculated monthly, so you only lose benefits for months you exceed 1/12 of the annual limit.

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Something important that nobody mentioned yet: as a self-employed person, Social Security also looks at your "hours worked" not just your income. If you spend "significant" time on your business (SSA considers 45+ hours/month significant), they might determine you're not entitled to benefits regardless of income level. This is separate from the earnings test. Many Etsy sellers don't realize this and get caught in overpayment situations. You should document your work hours carefully.

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Wait, WHAT?! I had no idea about this hours worked rule! That changes everything for me. I probably work 15-20 hours a week on my shop. That's definitely over 45 hours a month. Does that mean I shouldn't be getting CIC benefits at all? Now I'm really confused and worried.

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The substantial services rule mainly applies to retirement benefits before FRA, not Child-in-Care benefits. For CIC benefits, it's primarily the earnings test that matters. The 45+ hours rule is more relevant for retirees claiming they've "stopped working" but still running a business. You should be fine with your Etsy shop as long as you stay under the earnings limit.

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This is a common mistake I see people make - they don't realize that with self-employment what counts is what you TAKE HOME after business expenses. My sister-in-law was selling on Amazon and worried about going over the limit but after we sat down and calculated her actual NET income (after all the fees, supplies, shipping, etc) she was way under the limit. Just make sure you can document all your expenses if they ever ask!

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That's exactly my situation with Etsy! When I look at my gross sales it seems high, but after platform fees, materials, shipping supplies, and marketing costs, it's much lower. I'm going to be much more careful about keeping all my receipts now.

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Just wanted to add one more important point that might help you - make sure you're reporting your self-employment earnings to SSA promptly when they happen, not just at tax time. They have a form (SSA-1099) you can use to report monthly earnings if needed. I learned this the hard way when I had a really good month on my craft business and didn't report it right away. SSA ended up overpaying me and I had to pay it back later. It's much easier to stay on top of it month by month, especially with something like Etsy where sales can be unpredictable. Also, keep in mind that the $22,320 limit applies to your tax year, so if you started your business partway through 2024, you still get the full annual limit amount.

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