Social Security Disabled Widow benefits change at age 62? Need clarity on work limits
I lost my husband 11 years ago when I was just 51 and he was 66. He had literally just started collecting his SS retirement benefits a few months before he passed, right after our 30th anniversary. Because of my health issues, I qualified for disabled widow's benefits based on his earnings record (thank goodness, because my self-employment income before his death was minimal). Now I've turned 62, and I'm totally confused about what happens next with my benefits. Every time I call SSA, I get different answers. I need to know: 1. Will my benefit amount stay at the same percentage I get now, or will it change? 2. Is there an age when I can earn unlimited income without affecting my benefits? 3. Will I get a larger monthly payment when I reach a certain age? 4. Will I eventually be switched from disabled widow benefits to regular retirement benefits? I'm so frustrated with getting contradictory information from different SSA representatives. Has anyone been through this transition from disabled widow to retirement age?
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Ava Williams
This is a complicated situation with disabled widow benefits. Here's what you need to know: 1. At age 60-65, widow benefits are reduced based on how early you take them before your FRA (full retirement age). 2. Since you took disabled widow benefits at 51, you're getting a special rate. When you reach FRA (probably 67 for you), you'll get 100% of your deceased husband's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount). 3. For earnings limits: Until FRA, there's an earnings test. For 2025, you can earn about $22,750 without penalty. After FRA, NO earnings limit applies. 4. You'll automatically convert from disabled widow to regular widow benefits, but the amount typically stays the same. I'd recommend getting an appointment with a Technical Expert at your local office who specializes in survivor benefits - regular claims reps often get this wrong.
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Dmitry Petrov
•Thank you so much for breaking this down! So at my FRA I'll get 100% of my husband's amount instead of the reduced rate? And I'm thinking I need to wait 5 more years (until 67) before I can work without worrying about the earnings limit? That makes sense why I've been getting different answers.
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Miguel Castro
I lost my husbend when i was 53 and got the widows disability to. Im 64 now and they switched me to regular widows benefits at 60. My payment didnt change AT ALL. But now I can work more and the limit is different. DONT let them tell you different stuff! Get it in writing!!!
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Zainab Ibrahim
•Actually, this isn't entirely accurate. The conversion from disabled widow's benefits to regular widow's benefits happens at age 60, but the benefit amount can absolutely change based on when you originally filed and what percentage of the deceased worker's PIA you were receiving. And keep in mind the earnings limit for 2025 is $22,750 if you're under FRA for the whole year.
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Connor O'Neill
Hi there - let me try to provide some clarity on your disabled widow's benefit questions: 1. Benefits percentage: Your disabled widow benefit will convert to a regular widow benefit, but your payment amount typically remains the same. However, at your Full Retirement Age (likely 67), you'll receive 100% of your husband's benefit amount. 2. Unlimited earnings: After you reach your Full Retirement Age, you can earn unlimited income without affecting your Social Security benefits. Until then, the 2025 earnings limit applies (approximately $22,750/year). 3. Increased payment: If your disabled widow benefit was reduced because you claimed early, you'll get an increase when you reach your FRA. 4. Type of benefit: The system automatically converts you from disabled widow to regular widow benefits, but this is primarily an administrative change - your payment typically continues seamlessly. I strongly recommend requesting a written explanation of your specific situation from SSA. The rules for widow benefits are complex, and many representatives don't deal with them often enough to be experts.
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Dmitry Petrov
•This helps tremendously! So at FRA I should see an increase if I've been receiving a reduced amount all these years. I'll definitely request something in writing. I've been afraid to earn too much income because I didn't want to lose my benefits, but it sounds like after 67 I can work as much as I want without penalty. That's a game changer for me!
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LunarEclipse
Trying to contact SSA to get these questions answered can be SO frustrating! I had a similar issue with confusing answers about my widows benefits. I finally found a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an actual SSA agent in under 5 minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Once I got through to a knowledgeable person, I learned that at Full Retirement Age, the earnings test no longer applies regardless of which benefit you're receiving. The rep explained my widow transition clearly and even sent me a follow-up letter confirming everything. Worth considering if you're still getting nowhere with regular calls.
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Dmitry Petrov
•I've never heard of this service but I'm definitely going to check it out. The hold times are absolutely ridiculous when calling SSA directly. I need to speak with someone who actually understands these rules, not just the first available rep. Thanks for sharing this!
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Yara Khalil
my mom went thru this!!! she was on widow disability then turned 60 and got regular widow benefits. she still couldnt earn much $ until she hit full retirement age (66 for her). Benefits stayed about the same $ amount til FRA when she got more. SSA is the WORST with giving different answers evrytime u call!!!
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Keisha Brown
•Same with my aunt! They gave her 3 different answers about her widow benefits in the same week. She finally had to go to the office in person and demand to speak with a supervisor to get accurate information. Even then, she had to bring printouts from the SSA website to prove her point.
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Ava Williams
One additional point since you mentioned being self-employed: self-employment income is counted differently for the earnings test than regular W-2 income. For self-employed people, SSA looks at both your income AND your work activity. Even if you keep your earnings under the limit, if you're working significant hours in self-employment, they might still apply deductions. After FRA though, this all becomes irrelevant since there's no earnings test at all. You can earn any amount without reduction to your benefits.
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Dmitry Petrov
•That's super helpful to know. I've been keeping my self-employment very limited because I was afraid of crossing some threshold. Now I understand why the rules seemed so confusing when I was asking about work - they were probably considering both my hours and income, not just the dollar amount.
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Zainab Ibrahim
I think most people here are missing something CRUCIAL. When you reach FRA (Full Retirement Age), you should contact SSA to see if you qualify for a HIGHER benefit based on your OWN work record! Even with limited self-employment, you've been earning credits all these years. It's POSSIBLE (not guaranteed) that your own retirement benefit might be higher than your widow's benefit at FRA. SSA is SUPPOSED to automatically give you whichever is higher, but MANY times they miss this! You should request a benefit calculation based on BOTH scenarios when you approach FRA. And YES, after FRA you can earn UNLIMITED income with no benefit reduction. This is true for ALL types of Social Security benefits.
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Dmitry Petrov
•I hadn't even considered this! I assumed my own work record would be too minimal to matter, but you're right - I have been accumulating some credits over these years. I'll definitely have them run both calculations when I approach FRA. Thank you!
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Keisha Brown
My sister went thru the disabled widow to regular benefits transition. She said everything stayed the same payment-wise, but the rules about working changed. I think each case is different though based on when you started receiving benefits and your age.
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Miguel Castro
•Yep it totally depends on when u started getting the benefits and what age u were!!! Thats why its so confusing! I had a friend who got a nasty surprise when she started working more and didnt know about the earnings limit, they made her pay back $4000!!! So be super careful about working until u hit that FRA age!!!
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Leo Simmons
I'm so sorry for your loss and the confusion you've been dealing with! This is exactly why I joined this community - navigating SSA can be incredibly frustrating when you're already dealing with so much. From what I understand as someone new to all this, it sounds like you're in a unique situation with disabled widow benefits that automatically convert at certain ages. The consensus here seems to be that at your FRA (likely 67), you'll get 100% of your husband's benefit amount and can work unlimited hours without penalty. One thing that really stood out to me from everyone's responses is the importance of getting everything in writing from SSA. It seems like phone reps give inconsistent information, but having documentation protects you. Also, the suggestion about checking if your own work record might qualify you for higher benefits at FRA is brilliant - I wouldn't have thought of that either! Thank you for sharing your story. It's helping me understand what to expect if I ever face a similar situation. I hope you get the clear answers you deserve soon!
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Jamal Anderson
•Thank you for such a thoughtful and comprehensive response! As someone who's been struggling with this for months, it really helps to have someone summarize all the key points so clearly. You're absolutely right about getting everything in writing - I've learned that the hard way after getting three different answers in one week! The suggestion about checking my own work record is something I never would have considered, but now I'm definitely going to ask about it when I approach FRA. Even though my self-employment income has been minimal, those credits might add up to something meaningful over 11+ years. I appreciate you taking the time to read through everyone's responses and pull out the most important takeaways. Sometimes when you're in the middle of a confusing situation, it's hard to see the forest for the trees. Your summary gives me a clear action plan moving forward!
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Bethany Groves
I'm really sorry for your loss and the frustrating experience you've had with getting consistent information from SSA. Reading through everyone's responses here, it's clear that disabled widow benefits transitioning to regular benefits is a complex area that even SSA representatives sometimes struggle with. What strikes me most is how many people have shared similar experiences of getting contradictory information from different reps. It seems like the key takeaways for your situation are: 1. At FRA (likely 67 for you), you should receive 100% of your husband's benefit amount 2. After FRA, you can earn unlimited income without any benefit reduction 3. The transition from disabled widow to regular widow benefits is mostly administrative - your payment typically continues seamlessly 4. You should definitely request both a written explanation of your specific situation AND have them calculate whether your own work record might qualify you for higher benefits The suggestion about Claimyr to get through to knowledgeable SSA agents faster sounds promising if you continue having trouble reaching someone who understands these rules. And I think everyone's advice about getting everything in writing is crucial - it protects you from conflicting information down the road. Your situation is helping me understand how important it is to advocate for yourself when dealing with government benefits. Thank you for sharing your experience with the community!
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Holly Lascelles
•Thank you for such a thoughtful summary, Bethany! I'm new to understanding Social Security benefits myself, and this conversation has been incredibly educational. What really stands out to me is how complicated these transitions can be, especially for widow benefits with disability components. I'm particularly struck by how many people have had to become their own advocates to get accurate information from SSA. It seems like the system really requires persistence and documentation to navigate successfully. The suggestion about getting both scenarios calculated (widow benefits vs. own work record) at FRA is something I never would have thought of but makes so much sense. As someone just learning about these systems, I'm grateful for communities like this where people share real experiences rather than just generic information. It's clear that every situation is unique, but the common thread seems to be the importance of being persistent and getting everything in writing. Dmitry, I hope you're able to get the clear, written guidance you need soon. Your experience is definitely helping others understand what to expect!
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Kelsey Hawkins
I'm new to this community and still learning about Social Security benefits, but your situation really highlights how confusing the system can be, especially for complex cases like disabled widow benefits. Reading through all the responses here, it seems like the key points everyone agrees on are: 1. At your Full Retirement Age (likely 67), you'll receive 100% of your husband's benefit amount 2. After FRA, there's no earnings limit - you can work and earn as much as you want 3. The transition from disabled widow to regular widow benefits is mostly administrative 4. Getting everything in writing from SSA is crucial given how inconsistent phone representatives can be What really stands out to me is the suggestion from @Zainab Ibrahim about having SSA calculate benefits based on BOTH your widow's benefits AND your own work record when you reach FRA. Even with limited self-employment income over 11+ years, you might have accumulated enough credits to potentially qualify for a higher benefit on your own record. I think the advice about requesting an appointment with a Technical Expert who specializes in survivor benefits is spot-on. It sounds like regular claims reps often don't have the expertise for these complex situations. Thank you for sharing your experience - it's really educational for those of us trying to understand how these benefits work. I hope you get the clear, consistent answers you deserve soon!
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Luca Esposito
•Hi Kelsey! I'm also pretty new to understanding all these Social Security rules, and this conversation has been such an eye-opener. What strikes me most is how many different people have shared similar stories of getting conflicting information from SSA - it really shows this isn't just an isolated problem. The point about having both scenarios calculated at FRA is brilliant and something I never would have considered. Even "minimal" self-employment income over more than a decade could potentially add up to something meaningful, especially if those earnings were in more recent years when the wage base was higher. I'm also impressed by how supportive this community is. People are sharing not just technical information but also practical strategies like using services to get through to knowledgeable reps faster, or specifically requesting Technical Experts instead of general claims representatives. @Dmitry Petrov - your situation is really helping those of us who are newer to this understand the importance of being persistent advocates for ourselves. The fact that you ve'been dealing with this confusion for months while managing everything else shows incredible strength. I hope the advice here helps you get the clear, written answers you need!
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Evelyn Martinez
I'm new to this community and just wanted to say how helpful this entire discussion has been! As someone who's still learning about Social Security benefits, your situation really illustrates how complex these transitions can be. What's most striking to me is how many experienced community members have shared similar stories about getting inconsistent information from SSA representatives. It seems like this is unfortunately a common experience, especially with more complex benefit scenarios like yours. From everything I've read here, the key takeaways seem to be: - At your FRA (likely 67), you should receive 100% of your husband's benefit - After FRA, you can earn unlimited income without penalties - Getting everything documented in writing is absolutely crucial - Having them calculate both your widow's benefits AND your own work record at FRA could potentially reveal higher benefits you're entitled to I'm particularly grateful for the practical advice shared here, like requesting appointments with Technical Experts who specialize in survivor benefits rather than general representatives, and the service mentioned for getting through to knowledgeable SSA agents more quickly. Your persistence in seeking clear answers, despite months of confusion, is really admirable. Thank you for sharing your experience - it's helping people like me understand what to expect and how important it is to be our own advocates when navigating these systems. I hope you get the definitive, written guidance you deserve very soon!
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Santiago Martinez
•Hi Evelyn! I'm also new to this community and have been following this discussion with great interest. What really stands out to me is how this conversation demonstrates both the complexity of the Social Security system and the incredible value of peer support in navigating it. @Dmitry Petrov s'situation perfectly illustrates why communities like this are so important - when official channels give conflicting information, having real people share their experiences becomes invaluable. The fact that multiple people have mentioned getting different answers from SSA in the same week really highlights a systemic issue. I m'particularly impressed by how experienced members like @Zainab Ibrahim and @Ava Williams have shared such detailed, actionable advice. The suggestion about calculating both benefit scenarios at FRA could potentially save someone thousands of dollars if their own work record qualifies them for higher benefits. As someone just starting to understand these systems, I m definitely taking'notes on the importance of documentation, requesting Technical Experts, and being persistent. It s clear that'navigating Social Security benefits requires being your own advocate, which can be overwhelming when you re already dealing'with loss and disability. Thank you for sharing your story, Dmitry. Your experience is helping newcomers like us understand what we might face and how to better prepare for it!
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