Can my ex-spouse claim Social Security benefits from my record if they never paid into SS?
Hello everyone, I'm planning to file for my Social Security retirement benefits next year and have a situation with my ex-husband that's confusing me. We've been divorced for about 8 years now. He worked for our state government his entire career (almost 30 years) and didn't pay into Social Security except maybe for some summer jobs when he was young. He's been collecting his state pension for about 3 years already. Since he doesn't qualify for SS on his own record, I'm wondering if he can claim ex-spouse benefits based on MY Social Security record when I start collecting? I worked in the private sector my whole career and paid into SS for over 35 years. This is keeping me up at night because I don't want my benefit amount to be reduced because of him. Any insights would be greatly appreciated!
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Oliver Schulz
The good news is that your ex-spouse claiming benefits on your record won't reduce your own retirement benefits at all. However, there are several requirements for an ex-spouse to claim on your record: 1) Your marriage lasted at least 10 years 2) Your ex has not remarried 3) Your ex is at least 62 years old 4) You are entitled to benefits yourself (though you don't necessarily need to be collecting yet) 5) The benefit your ex would receive on their own record (if any) is less than what they'd receive on your record The tricky part in your situation is the Government Pension Offset (GPO). Since your ex-husband receives a pension from work where he didn't pay into Social Security, any spousal or ex-spousal benefits he might qualify for would be reduced by 2/3 of his government pension amount. This often eliminates the entire Social Security benefit for people in his situation.
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Amina Diallo
•Thank you for explaining this! Yes, we were married for 19 years, so that part qualifies. He hasn't remarried. I didn't know about the GPO thing though - his pension is around $4,800/month, so I'm guessing that would wipe out any potential claim on my record? This is such a relief because I was worried my benefit would somehow be reduced.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
my brotherinlaw tried to do this and cudnt get anythng becuz of GPO its really unfair
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AstroAdventurer
•It's NOT unfair!!! The GPO exists for a reason - your brother-in-law didn't PAY INTO the system like the rest of us did for decades. Why should he get benefits he never contributed to? The whole point is that government workers with their own pensions CHOSE jobs that didn't participate in Social Security.
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Javier Mendoza
To expand on what others have said, your ex-husband would almost certainly be affected by the Government Pension Offset (GPO). The formula is fairly straightforward: any Social Security spousal/survivor benefit is reduced by two-thirds of the government pension. Let's say your ex would qualify for $1,000 monthly as an ex-spouse benefit based on your record. If his government pension is $4,800/month, the GPO reduction would be $3,200 (2/3 of $4,800), which completely eliminates the $1,000 potential benefit. Worth noting - the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) is different and wouldn't apply in this case. WEP affects a person's own Social Security benefits if they also receive a pension from non-covered work. GPO affects spousal/survivor benefits when the person receives a government pension from non-covered work. You can find more details about GPO on the SSA website: https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/gpo-calc.html
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Emma Wilson
•Wait, I'm confused...does the ex even get anything then? Seems like a waste of time to even apply if the pension cancels it all out.
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Javier Mendoza
•You're right - in most cases where someone has a substantial government pension, the GPO will eliminate any potential spousal/ex-spousal benefits completely. However, in certain situations with a smaller pension or potentially higher spousal benefit, there might be some remaining benefit after the GPO reduction. That's why it's still worth checking with SSA about the specific numbers in each case.
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Malik Davis
The other comments covered the technical aspects really well, but I wanted to add something important: your benefits are completely protected regardless of what your ex does. Even if he somehow qualifies for ex-spouse benefits (which sounds unlikely due to GPO), it has ZERO impact on your benefit amount. This is a common misunderstanding people have about the Social Security system. Your ex filing on your record doesn't reduce your benefits AT ALL.
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Amina Diallo
•This is such a relief to hear! I've been worried that somehow my retirement would be affected. I didn't realize ex-spouse benefits were completely separate and wouldn't impact me.
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Isabella Santos
I spent THREE DAYS trying to reach someone at Social Security about my ex claiming on my record!!! Every time I called I was on hold for over 2 hours and then got disconnected. The website was NO help at all for my specific situation. Finally I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual SSA rep in under 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. The agent explained everything about ex-spouse benefits and GPO, totally worth it to get real answers instead of stressing for weeks!
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•dose it cost money? i tried calling SS last week and they hung up on me TWICE
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Isabella Santos
•Yes, there is a fee, but considering I wasted hours upon hours trying to get through on my own, it was worth every penny to finally speak with someone. The SSA rep was able to look up my specific situation and give me exact answers about my ex's eligibility.
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AstroAdventurer
BOTH of my parents worked for state government and neither one could get spousal benefits because of that stupid GPO rule!! Dad paid into Social Security for 12 years before switching to state employment, but that didn't matter. The system is RIGGED against public servants who dedicated their careers to helping others. The GPO and WEP rules need to be ABOLISHED!!!
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Oliver Schulz
•While I understand your frustration, there's actually a logical reason behind GPO. The spousal benefit was designed to provide for spouses who didn't work or earned very little. Without GPO, government employees who didn't contribute to Social Security would get both their full government pension AND a full spousal benefit, which would be an unfair advantage compared to couples who both paid into Social Security throughout their careers. There are ongoing debates about reforming these provisions, but they were created to address a specific fairness issue in the system.
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Emma Wilson
I think i had a similar situation but opposite... i worked and paid into SS but my ex was a teacher with a pension. When we divorced after 22 years i tried to claim on her record and got denied. So confusing!
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Javier Mendoza
•That's actually a different situation. You were denied because you can't claim spousal benefits on someone's record if they don't have a Social Security record to claim on. Teachers in some states don't pay into Social Security, so there's no benefit record for ex-spouses to claim against. In the original poster's case, SHE has a Social Security record, but her ex likely won't be able to claim on it due to GPO reductions.
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Amina Diallo
Thank you all for the helpful explanations! I feel much better now understanding that my benefits won't be affected regardless of what my ex tries to do. And it sounds like because of the GPO, he probably wouldn't qualify for anything on my record anyway with his pension being so substantial. I appreciate everyone taking the time to explain all the technical details - Social Security rules are so complicated!
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Malik Davis
•Glad we could help clarify things! Just remember that if your circumstances change (like if you're considering remarriage), it's always good to check how that might affect various Social Security benefits. And when you're ready to file for your own retirement benefits, be sure to create a my Social Security account online if you haven't already - it's the easiest way to track everything.
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