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Ana Erdoğan

Can my ex-spouse get increased Social Security benefits based on my earnings record?

I need some help figuring out Social Security benefits between ex-spouses. My situation: I was married for 22 years, been divorced for 14 years now. My ex-husband had a steady job at an engineering firm, worked there for about 30+ years before retiring, and started claiming his SS at 62 (he's 67 now). I worked in healthcare administration, just retired last summer, but I'm planning to delay taking my benefits until I hit my full retirement age at 66 and 8 months to maximize what I get. Here's my question: once I start collecting my Social Security, can my ex-husband get any kind of increase by claiming on my record? I've heard about spousal benefits after divorce, but everything I read talks about the lower-earning spouse claiming on the higher earner's record. In our case, I think our earnings might have been similar, though I probably had higher income in my last 10 years. Does anyone know if he can get some kind of "bump up" based on my earnings when I start collecting?

The simple answer is yes, but only if your benefit amount would be higher than his current benefit. Since he already filed at 62, he's receiving a permanently reduced benefit (about 30% less than his full retirement age amount). When you file, he could potentially get an increase IF 50% of your full retirement age benefit is higher than what he's currently getting. For example, if your full retirement age benefit is $3,000 and his current benefit is $1,400, then he could get a boost because 50% of yours would be $1,500. But remember, this doesn't affect your payment at all - you'd still get your full amount.

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Thank you for that clear explanation! So it depends on whether 50% of my benefit would be higher than what he's already getting. That makes sense. Do you know if he would need to apply for this increase, or does SSA automatically check and adjust his benefit when I file?

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my cousin went through something similar!! her ex tried to claim on her record but SSA told him he couldn't get anything extra because his own benefit was already higher than what he'd get as an ex-spouse. they don't just give extra money to exes for no reason lol

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Same with my sister! Her ex tried this and got denied. The SSA rep told her that once you choose to take your own benefits early, you're pretty much locked in at that lower amount. Something about "deemed filing" I think?

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I want to clarify something important here. Since your ex-husband has already filed for his own retirement benefits, he would only receive the higher of either his own benefit or the spousal benefit (which is up to 50% of your FRA benefit amount). He does NOT get both. Also, because he filed early at 62, any spousal benefits he might be eligible for would also be reduced based on when he originally filed. This is called the "deemed filing" rule. One more crucial point: He would need to contact SSA himself to check if he qualifies for the increased amount. The SSA does NOT automatically check this or notify him when you file. Many people miss out on higher benefits because they don't realize they need to apply for this adjustment.

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This is EXACTLY right. I worked for SSA for 20+ years and you'd be amazed how many people don't know they need to contact us when an ex files. We don't track your exes and automatically adjust benefits! AND since he filed early at 62, even if he does qualify for some ex-spousal benefits, they'll be permanently reduced. The reduction factors are different for retirement vs. spousal benefits too (different percentages). Bottom line: he should contact SSA directly when you file.

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does anyone know if theres a way to find out what your exs benefit amount is????? i dont talk to mine and have NO IDEA if i should file on his record or mine????????

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There's no way to see your ex's benefit amount - that's private information protected by federal law. You would need to talk to an SSA representative directly. They can check your eligibility for both retirement benefits on your own record and ex-spousal benefits without revealing your ex's specific information. Then they'll tell you which option gives you the higher amount.

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The entire system is RIGGED against those of us who paid into it our whole lives!!! I bet you anything they'll find some loophole to deny your ex any increase. My ex tried to get benefits on my record after our divorce and the SSA put him through ENDLESS hoops, asking for marriage certificates from 30 YEARS AGO and making him prove things over and over. They just don't want to pay people what they deserve after taking our money for DECADES!!!!

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wow that sounds awful! did he ever get it sorted out? my aunt had to bring in her marriage certificate too but they accepted a copy she had

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After FOUR visits and THREE appeals they finally approved it, but by then he'd lost almost 8 months of the higher payment!!! And of course NO BACKPAY for their mistakes!!

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To address your follow-up question - he absolutely needs to contact SSA when you file. They won't automatically check or adjust anything. This is a common misunderstanding about how the system works. And here's something else to consider: if you're delaying until 66+10 months, you'll get almost 108% of your full retirement benefit. However, if your ex tries to claim on your record, he'll only get up to 50% of your FULL retirement amount (not the increased amount), and that's before any reductions for his early filing.

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Thank you for that clarification! So even though I'm waiting to maximize my benefit, any spousal benefit he might get would be based on my regular FRA amount, not the increased amount. That makes a big difference in the calculation.

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I see a lot of confusion in this thread about ex-spouse benefits. Let me try to straighten things out: 1) For your ex to get benefits on your record, you must have been married at least 10 years (you were - 22 years) 2) He can only get ex-spousal benefits if they're higher than his own current benefit 3) The maximum he could get is 50% of your FRA benefit amount 4) Since he took benefits at 62, any spousal benefits would be reduced 5) He would need to apply for this himself - it's not automatic Have you tried calling SSA directly? I know their phone lines are nearly impossible to get through, but I recently used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an agent in about 20 minutes instead of spending days trying. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU An SSA agent can look at your specific earnings records and give you a more precise answer about whether your ex might qualify for an increase based on your record.

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Thank you for breaking this down so clearly! I haven't tried calling SSA yet because I've heard the wait times are horrendous. I'll check out that service you mentioned - getting through in 20 minutes sounds much better than waiting for hours or getting disconnected. I appreciate the suggestion!

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Just wondering - does it matter if either of you has remarried? I thought that affected ex-spouse benefits somehow...

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Great question! If the person claiming ex-spousal benefits has remarried, they generally cannot collect on their former spouse's record unless their current marriage has also ended. However, the person whose record is being claimed on (in this case, the original poster) can remarry without it affecting their ex-spouse's ability to claim on their record. So if OP has remarried, it wouldn't affect her ex's potential benefits, but if her ex has remarried and is still married, he wouldn't be eligible for benefits on her record.

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Thank you all for the helpful information! I've learned a lot. To answer the question about remarriage - I never remarried, but I believe my ex did about 5 years ago. Based on what you're all saying, it sounds like he wouldn't be eligible for any benefits on my record since he's currently married to someone else. I think I'll still contact SSA before I file just to make sure I understand everything correctly. The Claimyr service sounds like a good way to avoid the frustrating wait times. Thanks again everyone!

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You've got it exactly right - since your ex has remarried, he cannot claim benefits on your record while that marriage is in effect. So this whole question is actually moot! But contacting SSA before you file is still a good idea to make sure you're maximizing your own benefits correctly. Good luck!

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm going through something similar with my ex-husband and had no idea about the remarriage rule. It's good to know that SSA doesn't automatically check or notify people about potential increases - I would have assumed they'd handle that automatically. One thing I'd add is that even if your ex wasn't remarried, given that he filed at 62 and you mentioned your earnings were probably similar, there's a good chance his reduced benefit might already be close to or higher than 50% of your FRA amount anyway. The early filing reduction is pretty significant (around 25-30% depending on his exact birth year), but if you had similar career earnings, the math might not work out in his favor regardless. Definitely smart to call SSA before you file though - they can run the numbers and give you the definitive answer for your specific situation!

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You make an excellent point about the math! I hadn't really considered that angle - if our earnings were similar and he took that 25-30% reduction by filing early, then even 50% of my FRA benefit might not be much higher than what he's already getting. Plus with him being remarried, it's all academic anyway. But you're absolutely right that it's worth calling SSA to understand all the details for my own filing strategy. Thanks for that insight!

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I'm new to this community but have been dealing with Social Security issues for my elderly parents, so I've learned quite a bit about the system. Just wanted to add that even though your specific situation is resolved (since your ex remarried), this thread is really valuable for others in similar situations. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that there's also a time limit consideration. If someone becomes eligible for higher ex-spousal benefits, they generally can only get up to 6 months of retroactive payments when they apply. So even if your ex wasn't remarried and was eligible, waiting too long after you file could mean missing out on some money. Also, for anyone else reading this - the SSA website has a really helpful "Retirement Estimator" tool where you can get estimates of your benefits at different filing ages. It won't tell you about ex-spousal benefits specifically, but it can help you understand your own benefit amounts when making these decisions. Thanks for sharing your situation - these real-world examples help so many people understand how the system actually works!

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Welcome to the community! That's a great point about the 6-month retroactive payment limit - I hadn't seen that mentioned before and it's definitely important information. It's frustrating that the system doesn't automatically notify people when they might be eligible for increases, especially when there are time limits involved. The Retirement Estimator tool sounds really useful too. I'll definitely check that out when I'm getting closer to filing. It's so helpful to have these kinds of resources, especially since navigating Social Security can be so confusing. Thanks for adding those details - even though my specific question is resolved, I'm sure this information will help other people who find this thread later!

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As someone who's been navigating the Social Security system for a while, I wanted to chime in with a few additional thoughts that might be helpful for others in similar situations. First, it's worth noting that even though your ex remarried (which disqualifies him from claiming on your record), the rules are different if that subsequent marriage ends. If he were to divorce again or become widowed, he could potentially become eligible again to claim on your record - whichever gives him the higher benefit. Also, I've seen some confusion in the thread about the "deemed filing" rule. This is crucial for anyone who filed early like your ex did. When you file for retirement benefits before your full retirement age, you're automatically deemed to be filing for any spousal benefits you're eligible for too. You can't pick and choose or wait to apply for spousal benefits later - it all happens at once, and everything gets reduced based on your age when you first filed. One more thing that might help others: if you're unsure about your ex's marital status and whether it affects your benefits, SSA can tell you during your consultation without revealing private details about your ex's situation. They'll just confirm whether you have any potential claims available. Great discussion everyone - these real-world scenarios really help clarify how complex the Social Security rules can be!

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This is incredibly helpful information, especially the clarification about what happens if a subsequent marriage ends! I had no idea that someone could potentially become eligible again for ex-spousal benefits if their later marriage dissolves. That adds another layer of complexity to an already complicated system. The point about deemed filing is really important too - I can see how that would catch people off guard. It makes sense that if you file early, you're essentially making all your benefit decisions at once and can't go back to optimize later. That's definitely something people should understand before they make that early filing decision. Thanks for mentioning that SSA can check eligibility without revealing private details. Even though my situation is resolved, it's good to know they can provide that kind of guidance while respecting privacy rules. This whole thread has been such an education on how Social Security actually works versus what people assume!

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This has been such an informative discussion! As someone who's approaching retirement myself, I really appreciate how everyone has broken down these complex Social Security rules in plain English. One thing I'd like to add for future readers is about the importance of keeping good records. Even though Ana's situation is resolved due to her ex's remarriage, for others who might be eligible for ex-spousal benefits, having documentation readily available can make the process much smoother. This includes marriage certificates, divorce decrees, and any name change documents. I also wanted to mention that some local SSA offices offer appointments specifically for benefit planning consultations, which can be really helpful for understanding all your options before you actually file. You might have better luck getting an in-person appointment than trying to get through on the phone lines. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and knowledge - this is exactly the kind of practical information that helps people navigate these complicated decisions!

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Great point about keeping good records! I learned this the hard way when I had to help my mom apply for survivor benefits. The SSA needed documentation going back decades, and fortunately she had kept everything in a filing cabinet. It would have been a nightmare trying to track down copies of old marriage and divorce certificates. The tip about scheduling in-person appointments is really valuable too. I didn't know they offered specific benefit planning consultations. That sounds much more productive than trying to get detailed advice over the phone, especially for complex situations like ex-spousal benefits where there are so many variables to consider. This whole thread really shows how much there is to learn about Social Security beyond just "file and collect." The interactions between different types of benefits, timing decisions, and life circumstances like remarriage create so many scenarios that aren't obvious until you dig into the details. Really appreciate everyone sharing their knowledge and experiences here!

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This thread has been incredibly educational! As someone new to this community, I'm amazed at how much there is to know about Social Security beyond the basics. I wanted to add one resource that helped me when I was researching benefits for my own situation - the SSA's publication "What Every Woman Should Know" (and they have similar guides for different situations). These publications break down a lot of the scenarios discussed here, including ex-spousal benefits, in pretty clear language. Also, for anyone dealing with the phone wait times, I've found that calling right when they open (8 AM in your time zone) or later in the month (after the 3rd Wednesday) tends to have shorter waits. The first few days of the month and around benefit payment dates are absolutely brutal for getting through. Ana, even though your specific question is resolved, I hope you'll share an update after you talk to SSA about your own filing strategy. These real-world follow-ups are so valuable for the community. Thanks for starting such an informative discussion!

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Thanks for those helpful tips, Oliver! The timing suggestions for calling SSA are really practical - I'll definitely keep those in mind. And I appreciate the recommendation about the "What Every Woman Should Know" publication. I'll look that up since it sounds like it covers a lot of the scenarios we've been discussing here. You're absolutely right that I should follow up after I talk to SSA. Even though my original question about my ex is resolved due to his remarriage, I'm sure there will be other details about my own filing strategy that could be helpful for others to hear about. This community has been so generous with sharing knowledge and experiences - it's the least I can do to pay it forward with an update on how the actual SSA consultation goes. Thanks again to everyone who contributed to this discussion. I've learned so much more than I expected when I first posted my question!

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I'm new to this community but wanted to share something that might help others in similar situations. My sister went through almost the exact same scenario about 3 years ago - divorced after a long marriage, ex-husband had remarried, and she was wondering about the benefit implications. What we learned from her SSA consultation was really eye-opening. Even though her ex's remarriage meant he couldn't claim on her record, the SSA representative walked her through several optimization strategies for her own benefits that she hadn't considered. Things like the impact of continuing to work part-time after filing, how Medicare enrollment timing affects things, and even some lesser-known rules about spousal benefits if she ever decided to remarry herself. The consultation took about 45 minutes and was incredibly thorough. They actually ran several different scenarios showing her projected benefits at different filing ages and explained the break-even points. She ended up adjusting her filing strategy based on that conversation and is really glad she took the time to get professional guidance rather than just going with her original plan. So even though your main question is resolved, I'd definitely encourage you to still have that SSA consultation. You might discover options or considerations you hadn't thought of. And thanks for sharing your situation - it's so helpful when people post real examples like this!

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That's such valuable insight, thank you for sharing your sister's experience! It sounds like the SSA consultation was much more comprehensive than just answering the original question about ex-spousal benefits. The fact that they ran multiple scenarios and explained break-even points is exactly the kind of detailed analysis I was hoping to get. I'm particularly interested in what you mentioned about continuing to work part-time after filing and how that affects benefits. I hadn't really considered the implications of that, but since I'm in good health and enjoy my work, I might want to do some consulting or part-time work even after I start collecting benefits. The Medicare enrollment timing aspect is another thing I need to research more. It seems like there are so many interconnected decisions when it comes to retirement planning, and getting professional guidance to understand all the implications makes a lot of sense. Your sister's experience has definitely reinforced my decision to schedule that SSA consultation, even though my main question is resolved. Thanks for taking the time to share that - it's exactly the kind of real-world follow-up that makes this community so helpful!

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