Can I receive my wife's higher Social Security benefits as survivor after 25+ years of marriage?
I'm trying to understand survivor benefits and need some clarification. My wife and I have been married for over 25 years now. She's always been the higher earner in our household (about $95,000/year vs my $42,000). We're both planning to wait until our full retirement age (67) to claim Social Security. My big question is: if she passes away before me after she's already started collecting her retirement benefits, would I be eligible to receive her higher benefit amount instead of mine? I've heard conflicting things about this from friends. Some say I'd get 100% of her benefit, others say I'd only get a portion or would have to stick with my own. Anyone know how survivor benefits actually work in this situation?
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Derek Olson
YES you get her full benifit amount when she dies. thats how it works, my uncle got my aunts after she passed and she made way more than him for like 30 years
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Rachel Tao
•Thanks for sharing about your uncle. That's reassuring to hear. Do you know if there's any paperwork he had to file after she passed or was it automatic?
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Danielle Mays
As a surviving spouse after a marriage of at least 9 months, you would indeed be eligible to receive 100% of your wife's Social Security retirement benefit if she passes away after she's started collecting, assuming you're at your full retirement age (FRA) when you claim survivor benefits. This is called the survivor benefit, and it's designed exactly for situations like yours. A few important things to note: - If you claim survivor benefits before your FRA, the amount will be reduced - You don't receive both benefits - you get the higher of either your own retirement benefit or the survivor benefit - You'll need to contact SSA when the time comes as survivor benefits aren't automatically applied - Different rules apply if she passes before starting her benefits This is why financial planners often recommend the higher-earning spouse delay benefits as long as possible (even to age 70) to maximize the potential survivor benefit for the lower-earning spouse.
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Rachel Tao
•This is really helpful info, thank you! We hadn't considered having her delay until 70 - that's something we should discuss. I'm assuming the 9-month marriage requirement won't be an issue for us after 25+ years together!
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Roger Romero
The other answers are missing something IMPORTANT!! You can't just automatically get her benefits! When my husband died last year I had to go through this NIGHTMARE process with SSA. They made me bring death certificate, marriage certificate, his SS card, my ID, birth certificates... it was RIDICULOUS!!! And then they STILL messed up the payments for 3 months!! So yes you'll get her higher amount IF she dies after starting benefits and IF you're at full retirement age, but be prepared for a bureaucratic mess when it happens.
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Anna Kerber
•You're absolutely right about the documentation requirements. The SSA does require proof of death, marriage, and identity to process survivor benefits. However, if you prepare these documents in advance, the process can go more smoothly. I recommend keeping important documents in a designated file that your spouse knows about. For anyone struggling to get through to the SSA about survivor benefits, I recently used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me skip the phone wait times. You can see how it works in their video demo: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. It was particularly helpful because survivor benefit questions usually need to be handled by phone rather than online.
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Niko Ramsey
My condolences on thinking about this sad topic. I think everyone here is right that you'd get her higher amount. Life is so unpredictable though! My wife and I had a similar situation but then I got a promotion and now I'm the higher earner so we had to completely rethink our planning. Have you two considered long-term care insurance too? That was another big decision for us.
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Seraphina Delan
•This thread is about Social Security survivor benefits, not long-term care insurance. Let's try to stay on topic and address the OP's specific question about receiving his wife's higher benefit amount if she passes away after claiming.
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Jabari-Jo
I think theres some confusion here... SSI and SSDI are different from retirement benefits. Are you talking about regular Social Security or the disability programs?
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Danielle Mays
•The original poster is asking about regular Social Security retirement benefits, not SSI (Supplemental Security Income) or SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance). Survivor benefits apply to regular Social Security retirement benefits, which is what the OP's question is about. All three programs are administered by the Social Security Administration but have different eligibility requirements and benefit calculations.
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Seraphina Delan
I want to emphasize something that hasn't been clearly addressed yet. If your wife has already claimed her benefits and then passes away, you would be eligible for 100% of her benefit amount, provided you're at least at your full retirement age (67 for those born in 1960 or later). However, what's particularly important for your planning is understanding that if your wife delays claiming her benefits beyond FRA until age 70, her benefit would increase by 8% per year due to delayed retirement credits. This increased amount would then become the survivor benefit you'd be eligible to receive. This is why many financial advisors recommend that the higher-earning spouse consider delaying benefits until 70 if possible, especially if there's a significant difference in earnings history between spouses. It essentially acts as a form of life insurance through the Social Security system.
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Rachel Tao
•Thank you for explaining the advantage of her delaying until 70. We hadn't really considered that angle, but it makes perfect sense. I'll have to discuss this with her since she was planning to claim at 67. Those delayed retirement credits could make a significant difference if I outlive her.
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Derek Olson
my mom got dads SS when he passed but she said she had to wait til she was 60 to claim it, so theres definintely some age rules involved to
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Seraphina Delan
•You're right about the age rules. Surviving spouses can claim as early as age 60 (or 50 if disabled), but the benefit amount is reduced if claimed before full retirement age. At age 60, it's about 71.5% of the full survivor benefit. Only by waiting until their own full retirement age (66-67 depending on birth year) would they receive 100% of the deceased spouse's benefit.
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Rachel Tao
Thanks everyone for the helpful information! Based on what I'm understanding: 1. Yes, I would get 100% of my wife's benefit if she passes away after starting her benefits (assuming I'm at my FRA) 2. It might be worth having her delay until 70 to maximize those potential survivor benefits 3. I'll need to file paperwork with SSA and provide documentation when the time comes 4. Different rules apply if she passes before starting benefits This has been really educational and gives us some things to consider in our retirement planning. I appreciate all the responses!
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