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NebulaNomad

Can I claim ex-spouse Social Security at 62 then switch to my own benefits at FRA or 70?

I'm trying to figure out my best strategy for maximizing Social Security benefits. Can I apply at 62 to collect benefits based on my ex-spouse's record and then switch to my own benefits when I reach my full retirement age (66 and 10 months) or even wait until 70? We were married for 17 years and I haven't remarried. My ex is 5 years older than me and currently receiving SSDI. I'm assuming his benefits will automatically convert to retirement benefits when he turns 62? I'm currently 59 and trying to plan ahead. I've heard conflicting information about whether this kind of switching strategy still works after the 2015 law changes. Anyone have experience with this?

Freya Thomsen

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This is a great question about maximizing your benefits! The strategy you're describing (starting with ex-spousal benefits then switching to your own higher benefit) was eliminated for most people by the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015. Now when you file at any age, you're deemed to be filing for ALL benefits you're eligible for - both your own and any spousal/ex-spousal benefits. SSA pays you whichever amount is higher, but not both. However, there's an exception: if you were born before January 2, 1954, you can still use this strategy (file a restricted application for just spousal benefits at FRA, then switch to your own later). Based on your age (59), you were born after that cutoff date, so unfortunately, this option isn't available to you.

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NebulaNomad

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That's disappointing! I was really hoping to use that strategy. So if I understand correctly, whenever I decide to claim (whether at 62, FRA, or 70), I'll just get the higher of either my own benefit or my ex-spouse benefit, not one and then later switch to the other?

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Omar Fawaz

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I tried to do EXACTLY this last year and the SSA rep told me NO WAY! Said those rules changed years ago and they don't let you pick and choose anymore. Super frustrating because my neighbor swore she did this, but turns out she's much older and was grandfathered in under the old rules. The whole system is designed to confuse us!!!

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NebulaNomad

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Thanks for sharing your experience. That's really frustrating! Did they at least tell you which benefit would be higher in your case? I'm wondering how I can figure out whether my own benefit at 70 would be substantially higher than my ex's.

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Chloe Martin

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Your ex's SSDI won't automatically convert to retirement benefits at 62. SSDI continues until Full Retirement Age (FRA), then it automatically converts to regular retirement benefits at the same amount. This conversion is just administrative - the payment amount stays the same. As for your main question, I'm sorry to say the 'file and switch' strategy was eliminated for people born after 1953. Your choice now is: 1) File early at 62 for reduced benefits (either your own or ex-spousal, whichever is higher) 2) Wait until your FRA for full benefits 3) Wait until 70 for maximum benefits (but only your own benefit grows after FRA, not ex-spousal) If your ex's benefit amount is higher than yours would be at 70, then claiming at 62 might make sense. If your benefit at 70 would be higher, waiting might be better.

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Diego Rojas

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my sister did this switch thing but she's 72 now so maybe different rules back then?? the whole ss system makes my head hurt lol

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I've been through exactly this (filed for ex spouse benefits). You need to create an account on SSA.gov and view your estimated benefits. Then compare to what you'd get from your ex's record (generally 50% of their FRA benefit). Without those numbers, it's impossible to say which strategy is best for you.

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NebulaNomad

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That's a good suggestion. I did create my SSA account but wasn't sure how to see what I'd get from my ex's record. Do I need to call them to get that information? I guess I should try to find out what his full benefit amount is first.

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StarSeeker

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Have you tried calling SSA directly? I had to wait on hold for THREE HOURS last month when I had questions about my widower benefits! Finally gave up and tried again the next day. Their phone system is completely broken!!

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I had the same awful experience trying to reach SSA about my ex-spouse benefits. After multiple failed attempts, I discovered Claimyr (claimyr.com) which got me through to a live agent in less than 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - basically they navigate the phone system for you and call you back when they reach an agent. Saved me hours of frustration when I needed to discuss my complicated filing strategy. Definitely worth checking out if you need specific answers about your ex-spouse benefit amounts.

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StarSeeker

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never heard of that but gonna check it out!! anything to avoid those endless holds and "please call back later" messages!!

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Diego Rojas

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my brother in law waited til 70 to get his ss and gets waaaaay more now, like almost double what he would have at 62! but his ex wife took hers early and regrets it big time. just something to think about!

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NebulaNomad

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That's really helpful perspective. I'm definitely torn between taking benefits early vs waiting. I just wish there was a way to get the ex-spouse benefits while waiting for my own to grow to age 70. Sounds like that's not an option anymore though.

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Freya Thomsen

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To answer your follow-up question - yes, you need to contact SSA directly to get an estimate of what your ex-spouse benefit would be. They don't show this on your online account. When you make your decision, remember: 1) Your own benefit grows by approximately 8% per year between FRA and 70 (called delayed retirement credits) 2) Ex-spousal benefits do NOT grow after your FRA - there's no advantage to waiting past your FRA for those 3) If you claim any benefits before your FRA, they'll be permanently reduced If your own benefit at 70 would be significantly higher than the ex-spousal benefit, and you can afford to wait, that might be your best financial move long-term.

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NebulaNomad

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Thanks for the additional details. This makes the decision clearer. I'll definitely need to contact SSA to get the ex-spouse benefit estimate so I can make a proper comparison. Really appreciate everyone's help with this complicated decision!

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Omar Fawaz

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ALSO don't forget about the earnings limits if you're still working!! My sister got SHOCKED with a huge overpayment notice because she claimed at 62 but was still working part-time. They took back almost $5000 because she earned too much! The limit is super low if you claim before FRA.

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Chloe Martin

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This is an excellent point about the earnings test. For 2025, if you're under FRA and collect benefits, SSA will deduct $1 for every $2 you earn above $22,560 (approximately). Once you reach FRA, there's no earnings limit. This is something to carefully consider if you're planning to continue working.

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I'm in a similar situation and went through this research last year. One thing that helped me was using the SSA's online calculators to model different scenarios. You can estimate your benefits at different claiming ages on ssa.gov, which gives you a baseline to compare against the ex-spouse benefit once you get that information from SSA. Also, don't overlook the impact of Medicare timing if you're considering working past 65. If you delay Social Security until 70 but need Medicare at 65, you'll need to enroll in Medicare Part A (which is free) but can delay Part B if you have qualifying employer coverage. This gets complicated fast, so factor healthcare costs into your decision timeline. The "break-even" analysis is crucial here - calculate at what age the higher lifetime benefit from waiting until 70 would outweigh the years of missed payments from claiming earlier. For many people, it's somewhere in their early 80s, but everyone's situation is different.

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Amara Eze

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One more thing to consider - if your ex-spouse is currently receiving SSDI, you might want to confirm his exact birth date and when his benefits will convert to retirement benefits. The timing could affect your planning since you mentioned he's 5 years older. Also, keep in mind that if he files for early retirement benefits before his FRA (which he can't do while on SSDI, but just for future reference), it could potentially reduce the spousal benefit calculation. Since his SSDI will convert automatically at his FRA without reduction, this shouldn't be an issue in your case, but it's worth understanding how these interactions work when you speak with SSA about your benefit estimates.

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Omar Farouk

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That's a really good point about the timing of his SSDI conversion! I actually don't know his exact birth date - we've been divorced for several years and don't really communicate. Is there a way to find out when his benefits will convert without having to contact him directly? I assume SSA won't give me information about his specific benefits due to privacy rules. This timing detail could definitely impact my planning since it affects when I'd be eligible to claim the ex-spouse benefit. Thanks for thinking of that - it's yet another complexity I hadn't considered!

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You're right that SSA won't share his specific benefit information with you due to privacy laws. However, you don't necessarily need his exact birth date or benefit amounts to move forward with your planning. When you call SSA to inquire about your potential ex-spouse benefits, they should be able to look up your marriage record and his Social Security number (if you have it) to give you an estimate of what your ex-spouse benefit would be. They can do this calculation based on his earnings record without revealing his private information to you. If you don't have his SSN, they might be able to work with his full name and approximate birth year since you were married. The key is that you're asking about YOUR potential benefits, not his specific benefit amounts.

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Yuki Ito

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Unfortunately, SSA won't share your ex-spouse's specific benefit information with you due to privacy laws - you're absolutely right about that. However, you don't actually need to know the exact conversion date to start planning. Here's what you CAN do: You're eligible to claim divorced spouse benefits as soon as YOU turn 62, regardless of when his SSDI converts to retirement benefits. The key requirement is that he's entitled to benefits (which he is, since he's receiving SSDI), not that he's receiving retirement benefits specifically. When you contact SSA for your benefit estimate, they can run the calculations based on his earnings record without revealing his personal details to you. They'll just tell you what YOUR potential divorced spouse benefit would be. So you can move forward with getting those estimates and doing your planning without needing to contact your ex at all!

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Adrian Connor

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Unfortunately, SSA won't share details about your ex-spouse's benefits due to privacy laws - you're absolutely right about that. However, you don't actually need to know the exact conversion date to plan your strategy. Here's why: you can apply for ex-spousal benefits as soon as you turn 62, regardless of when his SSDI converts to retirement benefits. The key requirement is that he's entitled to benefits (which he already is through SSDI), not that he's specifically receiving retirement benefits. When you contact SSA for your benefit estimate, they should be able to calculate your potential ex-spousal benefit based on his current earnings record without you needing his personal details. Just have your marriage certificate and divorce decree ready when you call - that's all the documentation they typically need to verify your eligibility.

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Evelyn Kelly

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Unfortunately, SSA won't share details about your ex-spouse's benefits due to privacy laws - you're absolutely right about that. However, you don't necessarily need his exact conversion date to move forward with your planning. When you contact SSA about your potential ex-spousal benefits, they can run calculations based on his current SSDI amount since that will become his retirement benefit at FRA. The key thing is that you were married for 17 years (well over the 10-year minimum) and haven't remarried, so you definitely qualify. I'd suggest calling SSA with whatever information you do have about your ex (full name, approximate age, SSN if you remember it) and let them guide you through what they need to calculate your potential benefit. They deal with these situations regularly and should be able to work with the information available.

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Dmitry Popov

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Unfortunately, SSA won't share your ex-spouse's specific benefit information with you due to privacy laws - you're absolutely right about that. However, you don't actually need to know the exact conversion date to start planning. You can request an estimate of your potential ex-spousal benefits from SSA without them disclosing his personal details. They calculate this based on his earnings record, and the estimate will be the same whether his SSDI converts this year or next year (since SSDI amounts equal the full retirement benefit amount). What matters more for your timeline is your own age and when YOU want to claim benefits. I'd suggest calling SSA (or using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier) to get your ex-spousal benefit estimate, then you can plan your strategy from there regardless of his exact conversion timing.

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