Can I claim Social Security survivor benefits from both ex-husbands? Taking benefits at 65 vs. FRA question
Hi everyone, I'm trying to navigate a somewhat complex survivor benefits situation. I'm currently 65 (born Nov 1959) and recently lost my job. Here's my situation: My first husband passed away at 67 while receiving his Social Security benefits. We were married for 33 years, and he was 11 years older than me. My second marriage was very brief - married in September 2020 (I was over 60) and divorced by June 2021. My second ex-husband was already collecting SS when we married, and I just learned he passed away recently. I originally planned to claim survivor benefits from my first husband at my survivor FRA (66 and 6 months) and continue working, then switch to my own benefit at 70 since it would be higher than my first husband's. But now that I'm unemployed, I'm reconsidering. My questions: 1. Can I claim survivor benefits based on BOTH ex-husbands, or just the first one? 2. At my current age (65), I believe I'd get about 91.86% of my first husband's benefit if I claim now instead of waiting until my FRA (66 and 10 months). 3. I understand there are earnings limits if I start taking benefits before my FRA and find another job. Really appreciate any insights on what would maximize my benefits in this situation!
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Isabella Costa
You can only receive survivor benefits based on one person's work record at a time. In your situation, you would want to choose whichever ex-husband's benefit would give you the highest amount. The Social Security Administration will help determine which is higher when you apply. You're correct about the percentage at your current age - filing for survivor benefits at 65 would give you approximately 91.9% of the full survivor benefit amount. Regarding work: for 2025, if you're under FRA and working, $1 in benefits will be withheld for every $2 you earn above $22,680 (this amount changes yearly with COLA). Once you reach FRA, there's no earnings test. Your strategy of taking survivor benefits and then switching to your own retirement at 70 is smart if your own benefit will be higher at that point. Each year you delay your own benefit past FRA, it increases by 8% until age 70.
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Hiroshi Nakamura
•Thank you so much for the clear explanation! Do you know if there's any difference in eligibility requirements between my two marriages? The first was 33 years, but the second was less than a year. Does the length of marriage affect my ability to claim on the second husband's record?
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Malik Jenkins
For survivor benefits, you need to have been married for at least 9 months at the time of death, unless death was accidental or occurred in the line of duty in certain military service. Since you divorced your second husband before his death, you wouldn't be eligible for survivor benefits on his record. The rule for divorced spouse survivor benefits requires the marriage to have lasted at least 10 years. But since your second marriage ended in divorce, and you weren't married when he died, this doesn't apply to you anyway. So you can only claim survivor benefits on your first husband's record, where you meet both the length of marriage requirement and were married at time of death.
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Hiroshi Nakamura
•Oh, that makes sense! I wasn't clear on how the rules worked for a divorced spouse who passed away after the divorce. I guess I'll just focus on optimizing my benefits from my first husband's record then. Thank you!
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Freya Andersen
Are u SURE about that?? My friend's cousin got SS from BOTH her exes when they died. SSA doesn't tell you everything ur entitled to...they make mistakes ALL THE TIME
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Malik Jenkins
•That's not possible under Social Security law. You can only receive one benefit at a time - SSA pays the highest benefit you're eligible for. Your friend's cousin might be receiving benefits from one ex-spouse and perhaps confusing other income sources, or possibly there was a miscommunication about her situation. The SSA system simply doesn't allow for collecting two survivor benefits simultaneously.
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Eduardo Silva
I went through something similar when my husband died. The MOST FRUSTRATING part was just trying to get through to someone at Social Security to ask these exact questions! I spent WEEKS trying to get through on their 800 number, getting disconnected after waiting for hours. Finally I found this service called Claimyr that got me through to a real person at SSA in about 20 minutes instead of waiting for hours or days. It saved me SO much stress - here's their site: claimyr.com and they have a video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Once I actually talked to someone, they confirmed I could only collect on one ex's record but helped me figure out which was better. Worth getting a real answer directly from SSA since your situation has some complications.
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Leila Haddad
•I've heard about that service before! Did it really work? I tried calling SSA yesterday and got disconnected twice after waiting over an hour each time. Getting seriously frustrated...
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Eduardo Silva
•Yes, it actually worked! I was skeptical too, but I was desperate after trying for weeks. They connected me through to SSA in about 15-20 minutes. The representative I spoke with was really helpful and explained all my options clearly.
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Emma Johnson
my mom just went through this. she got laid off at 63 and decided to take the survivor benefits early. now shes working part time and has to watch her income or they take money back. she has to stay under $1890/month i think? its super complicated
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Isabella Costa
•The monthly amount isn't quite right - SSA looks at annual earnings. For 2025, the annual limit if you're under FRA for the whole year is $22,680 (or about $1,890/month as you said). But once you reach your FRA, there's no earnings limit at all. Also important to know: in the year you reach FRA, the limit is much higher ($60,360 for 2025) and the reduction is only $1 for every $3 over the limit.
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Hiroshi Nakamura
Thanks to everyone for the helpful responses! I think I understand my situation better now. Just to confirm what I'm hearing: 1. I can only claim survivor benefits on my first husband's record since I was divorced from my second husband when he died 2. If I claim at 65, I'll get about 91.86% of my first husband's benefit 3. If I work while collecting before my FRA, I need to watch my earnings carefully I'm wondering if I should just wait until my FRA to avoid dealing with the earnings test, especially if I find another job soon. But then again, if I remain unemployed for a while, maybe taking reduced benefits now makes sense? It's such a hard decision!
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Isabella Costa
•That's exactly right - you've got all the key points correct. About waiting vs. claiming now: it really comes down to your immediate financial needs and job prospects. If you can manage without the benefits and expect to find a good-paying job soon, waiting until FRA avoids the headache of the earnings test. But if you need the income now or expect your job search might take a while, taking the reduced amount could make sense. Remember too that if you do exceed the earnings limit, you don't permanently lose those benefits - once you reach FRA, SSA recalculates and gives you credit for months when benefits were withheld.
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Ravi Patel
Your so lucky to have been married 33 years and qualify for the survivor benefits! I was married 9 years and 10 months when we divorced - just missed the 10 year cutoff for divorced spouse benefits by TWO MONTHS! 😠Still bitter about it 7 years later lol
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Freya Andersen
•OMG that is AWFUL!!! Only 2 months short?? Did u try to appeal or anything?? The system is so unfair sometimes!!!
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Ravi Patel
•Nope, apparently it's a hard cutoff - not even a day less than 10 years counts. My fault for not realizing this was a thing when we were separating. Would have dragged out the divorce a bit longer if I'd known!
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Leila Haddad
I think everyone's missing something important here. If your own benefit at 70 will be higher than your husband's, you should look at whether your own reduced benefit now would be higher than the survivor benefit at 91.86%. It's complicated math, but if your own benefit at FRA is significantly higher than your deceased husband's, then your own benefit reduced at age 65 might still be better than the survivor benefit. Have you checked what your own benefit would be if you claimed right now vs. the survivor benefit amount?
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Isabella Costa
•That's actually not the optimal strategy in this case. Survivor benefits and retirement benefits have different rules. The better approach is to take the reduced survivor benefit now (if needed) and let her own retirement benefit grow until 70. This is because: 1) Taking her own retirement benefit early would permanently reduce it 2) She can switch from survivor to retirement at any point 3) If she takes her own retirement early, she can't later switch to just survivor benefits So if her own benefit at 70 will be higher than the survivor benefit, she should preserve that option by not claiming her own benefit early.
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Leila Haddad
•Oh! You're absolutely right - I was confusing the rules. Thank you for the correction. So her original plan (survivor now, switch to her own at 70) is actually the optimal approach.
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