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I wanted to address what happens during the SSDI application process specifically for spinal osteoarthritis: 1. After applying (online, by phone, or in person), SSA will review your work history to verify you're insured for SSDI. 2. Your case goes to your state's Disability Determination Services (DDS) where a medical consultant and examiner evaluate your medical evidence. 3. For osteoarthritis claims, they'll likely request detailed imaging and may send you for a consultative exam (CE) with their doctor. 4. They'll assess whether your condition meets Listing 1.15 OR if your limitations prevent all types of substantial work. 5. For back conditions, they look specifically at your ability to: sit/stand/walk for periods of time, lift/carry objects, bend/stoop/crouch, and maintain concentration despite pain. The approval rate for musculoskeletal conditions at the initial application stage is only about 35%, but increases to nearly 60% at the hearing level. Having a longitudinal medical history (consistent treatment over time) significantly improves your chances.
This is accurate. When I applied for SSDI for my degenerative disc disease, the consultative exam was very brief - less than 15 minutes. The doctor barely examined me. Make sure your own treating physician's records are extremely detailed since the CE doctors often don't document limitations thoroughly.
my friend with back problems got denied and she said her mistake was she was TOO HONEST in her application! She said she could grocery shop (with breaks) and they used that against her. Be careful what you say you can still do!!!!
This is a common misunderstanding. You should always be truthful in your application, but be precise about limitations. For example, instead of just saying "I can grocery shop," specify "I can only shop for 15 minutes before needing to rest due to pain, require assistance with carrying bags, and need to rest for several hours afterward." Accuracy is key - both what you can AND cannot do.
So here's what you need to know - at 62, you can apply for divorced spouse benefits IF: 1. You were married at least 10 years (you qualify) 2. You're currently unmarried (assuming you are) 3. Your ex is entitled to benefits (even if they haven't filed yet, they need to be 62+) BUT - and this is the big change since 2016 - you MUST file for your own benefits simultaneously. They'll pay you whichever amount is higher. If your work record gives you $800/month and your ex-spouse benefit would be $900/month, you'd get $900. If your own benefit is higher, you'd just get that. The old strategy was eliminated for anyone born after 1/1/1954. I found all this out the hard way last year!
To directly answer your original question: No, a 62-year-old who was married 10+ years cannot apply for ex-spouse benefits without applying for their own if they were born after January 1, 1954. The SSA office gave you correct information. Whether to claim at 62 depends on your financial situation, health, and life expectancy. Remember that claiming at 62 means: 1. Your personal benefit is reduced by approximately 30% 2. Any spousal/ex-spousal benefit is reduced to about 35% (instead of 50%) 3. These reductions are permanent The key question is: do you need the income now, or can you afford to wait for a larger benefit later?
my situation is kinda similar except im not eligible for much on my own record. i worked mainly as a stahm for most of our marriage (26 yrs!). divorced 5 yrs now. i called SS last year when i turned 62 and they told me its better for me to wait til my FRA (66+8mo) to get the full 50% of my exs benefit. if i took it early at 62 id only get like 35% of his benefit forever. made me mad that i have to wait but what can you do?
You're making the right choice by waiting to your FRA if you can afford to. The reduction for taking ex-spousal benefits early is permanent and significant. At 62, it would be closer to 32.5% of your ex's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) rather than the full 50% at your FRA. For anyone reading who's in a financial position to wait until their Full Retirement Age for ex-spousal benefits, it's almost always the better long-term choice unless you have serious health concerns or immediate financial needs.
Thank you all for the helpful responses. I think I'm understanding better now. Since I can't take my own benefit early and then switch to the ex-spouse benefit later, my options are basically: 1. Claim early at 62 and get either my own reduced benefit OR my reduced ex-spouse benefit (whichever is higher), but it's permanently reduced 2. Wait until my FRA at 67 and get either my full retirement benefit OR 50% of my ex's FRA benefit (whichever is higher) I need to crunch the numbers using my SSA account to see what makes the most sense financially. The extra money now would be helpful, but I also don't want to shortchange myself for potentially decades if I live a long time (my mom is 91 and still going strong!). I'll also check out that Claimyr service to talk to SSA directly. The last time I called, I waited over an hour and then got disconnected.
You've got it exactly right. And yes, your family longevity is definitely something to consider. The general breakeven point between claiming at 62 vs. FRA is usually around age 78-80. If you have reason to believe you'll live beyond that (like your 91-year-old mom!), waiting often makes more financial sense. One additional factor to consider: Cost of Living Adjustments (COLAs) are applied to a smaller base amount if you claim early. So not only is your initial benefit reduced by claiming at 62, but all future COLAs will be proportionally smaller too.
To address your latest question - yes, you could structure your work seasonally. The earnings test can be applied monthly during your first year of retirement. So if you have some months where you don't work at all (defined as earning less than $1,860/month and working under 45 hours), you can receive full benefits for those specific months, even if you exceed the annual limit. This is called the Monthly Earnings Test and only applies during your first year of retirement. After that, they switch to the Annual Earnings Test regardless of which months you work. Many seasonal workers use this strategy successfully. Just document everything carefully - hours worked, income received, and which months you provided no services to your business.
Victoria Brown
Just a heads-up about benefits calculation: Since you're applying at your Full Retirement Age (67), you'll get 100% of your benefit amount. If your marriage lasted at least 10 years (which you mentioned it did), you potentially have the option to claim on your ex-spouse's record if that would give you a higher benefit amount. This is something you should ask about during your application call. When you apply, they'll automatically calculate whether your own benefit or the spousal benefit (50% of your ex's) would be higher, and give you the higher amount. You don't need to make this decision yourself. For the application itself, having your bank information ready for direct deposit setup will make things go faster. They'll ask for routing and account numbers during the call.
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Gabriel Freeman
•That's really good to know about possibly getting benefits based on my ex's record! He was a surgeon so his earnings were much higher than mine. How would they know his earnings? Would they contact him? We haven't spoken in over a decade.
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Victoria Brown
•They won't need to contact your ex at all. SSA already has everyone's complete earnings records in their system. When you give them his name and SSN (if you have it, but they can find him even without the SSN), they can look up his record and calculate 50% of his benefit. They'll compare that to your own benefit amount and pay you whichever is higher. Your ex won't be notified and it doesn't affect his benefits in any way. The fact that he had higher earnings definitely makes it worth asking about.
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Gabriel Freeman
Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I feel much better prepared now. I think I'll try applying online first based on several suggestions here, but have all my information ready in case I need to call instead. I'll definitely remember to write down the confirmation number (in multiple places!) and keep an eye out for any mail that follows. And I'll make sure to ask about potentially claiming on my ex's record since his earnings were higher. Really appreciate all your advice!
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