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Back to the original question - one thing no one mentioned is that if your husband filed for spousal benefits before 70, he wouldn't even get the full spousal amount because he'd be filing early for his spousal benefit. So not only would he permanently reduce his own benefit, but the spousal benefit for those 5 months would be reduced too. Double penalty!

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Thanks everyone for your helpful responses! I think we have our answer - my husband should just wait until he turns 70 in September 2025 to file for his benefits and not try to get spousal benefits during those 5 months. It's disappointing that we can't take advantage of this small window, but I understand it's more important to maximize his lifetime benefit. I appreciate all the information!

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That's definitely the right decision for maximizing your lifetime benefits. Those 5 months might seem like a long time to wait, but over the course of your retirement, the higher monthly amount will more than make up for it. Best of luck with your retirement planning!

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my mom did exactly what ur talking about! she took her own benefit at 62 (it was like $1450/month) and then when she hit full retirement age she switched to my dads survivor benefit which was around $2200. worked out great for her. the social security people actually suggested it when she went in to apply after dad died.

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That's really encouraging to hear! Sounds like your mom's situation was pretty similar to mine. Did she have any issues with the switch when she reached full retirement age, or was it pretty straightforward?

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One thing nobody's mentioned - you should create your my Social Security account online if you haven't already. You can see estimates of both your own benefit and your survivor benefit there. Makes it much easier to compare numbers and figure out the best strategy. Plus you can actually apply online which avoids the nightmare phone system.

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I do have an account set up, but I didn't realize it would show survivor benefit estimates too! I'll definitely check that out. Being able to see the actual numbers would help me figure out which strategy makes the most sense. Thanks for the tip!

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my wife's friend said if you work after getting benefits they can make you pay some back if you earn too much??

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That only applies if you're collecting benefits BEFORE your Full Retirement Age (FRA). Once you reach your FRA (66-67 depending on birth year), there's no earnings limit - you can make as much as you want with no penalty or payback. Since the original poster mentioned her husband is 67, he's past his FRA, so no worries about earning too much.

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Thanks everyone for the helpful answers! I feel much better knowing the money isn't just disappearing. I'll watch for any potential increase around October, though I won't expect much since his current job pays way less than his career. And definitely appreciate the warning about tax implications - we'll talk to our tax person to avoid surprises!

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Something important to understand about your situation: You're dealing with two separate processes, and they must happen in sequence: 1) First, your SSA-521 withdrawal must be processed completely. This includes calculating exactly how much you need to repay from your retirement benefits. 2) Only after that's finalized can they move forward with your survivor benefit application. Once your withdrawal is approved, you should receive a formal notice with repayment instructions. After repayment is confirmed, the survivor benefits processing can begin. The good news is that survivor benefits will typically be backdated to your application date (or protective filing date), so you won't lose benefits due to administrative delays.

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Thank you for breaking this down so clearly. It helps to understand the sequence. I just wish the SSA rep had explained it this way instead of just saying it'll take a long time. Do you know if there's any way to find out which specific processing center has my case?

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WAIT im confused - if you already suspended your benefits why do you have to withdraw them too? aren't those the same thing??

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They're actually completely different. Suspension just temporarily stops payments but keeps your claim active. Withdrawal (SSA-521) terminates your claim entirely as if you never filed, which allows you to file for a different benefit type without reduction. But withdrawal also requires you to repay all benefits received, which suspension doesn't.

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ohhh that explains a lot! so in OPs case they need to withdraw the retirement to get the full survivor amount? thats so complicated!

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One more critical point: Social Security is inflation-adjusted. This is HUGELY valuable and often overlooked. When you delay and get a larger benefit, you're getting a larger inflation-protected annuity, which is extremely expensive to purchase in the private market. With inflation running high in recent years, this protection becomes even more valuable. The 8.7% COLA in 2023 and 3.2% in 2024 meant significant increases for recipients. If you have other retirement assets, many financial planners now recommend spending down your non-inflation-protected assets first, while delaying Social Security to maximize this inflation-protected income stream.

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But the COLA is the same percentage no matter when you start benefits! If you get a 3% increase, it's 3% whether your check is $1500 or $2500. The dollar amount is different but the percentage is the same for everyone.

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Thank you all for such thoughtful responses! This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping for. Based on your comments, I think I need to: 1) Call SSA to get my personalized projections for different ages, 2) Consider my family health history more carefully, 3) Think about how my decision affects my spouse if I die first, and 4) Look at our overall retirement assets. I'm leaning more toward waiting now, at least until my FRA, if not 70. The difference in monthly benefits is much larger than I realized, and since my family tends to be long-lived, the math probably works in my favor to wait. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and knowledge!

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Sounds like a solid plan! Just one more tip: SSA allows you to run different scenarios yourself through your my Social Security account online. While calling gives you direct expert insights, the online calculator is available 24/7 without wait times. Best of luck with your decision!

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