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Employer filed appeal 7 MONTHS after my TWC benefits ended - How is this allowed?

I'm completely blindsided and panicking right now. I was terminated from my job in June 2023 (not my fault - manager had personal issues with me). I applied for unemployment, got approved, and received benefits until they ran out in December 2023. I've since found a new job (thank goodness). But yesterday I got a letter saying my FORMER employer has filed an appeal in July 2024 - that's SEVEN MONTHS after my benefits ended! How is this even allowed? The letter mentions something about a determination reversal and possible overpayment. Can they really do this so long after everything ended? Do I have to pay back all that money from last year? I don't have anywhere close to $4,800 saved up. Does anyone know what my options are? The appeal hearing is scheduled for next month and I'm terrified.

Ethan Anderson

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omg that sounds insane!! i thought there were time limits on this stuff?? my cousin had something similar happen but it was like 3 weeks after, not 7 MONTHS. the twc system is so broken i swear

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Ava Kim

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Right?? I thought there had to be some kind of deadline for appeals. I've moved on with my life and now they want to drag me back through all this. The stress is unreal.

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Layla Mendes

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This is unusual but not impossible. Appeal deadlines apply differently to employers in certain situations. If TWC sent your former employer a reimbursement bill recently (they're often a quarter behind), that could have triggered their right to appeal. You need to gather ALL documentation from your original claim approval - determination letters, any communication about your separation reason, and your work search logs. You have a solid case if you were initially approved and followed all the rules during your benefit period. Also, even if they somehow win the appeal, you can request a waiver of overpayment since the initial determination was in your favor and you had no reason to believe you weren't entitled to benefits.

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^^^THIS. Employers sometimes wait until they get their chargeback statement before appealing. Still seems excessive at 7 months though.

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Ava Kim

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Thank you for the explanation. I'm trying to find all my old paperwork but I'm not sure I kept everything. The determination letter definitely said I was eligible because the termination wasn't for misconduct. I did all my work searches every week (the full 3 activities). Do you know if I absolutely have to attend this hearing? I've already moved to a different city for my new job and taking time off would be really difficult.

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Aria Park

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you NEED to attend the hearing or youll automatically lose!!! happened to my brother when he missed his hearing, they ruled against him by default. the hearings are usually by phone so you dont have to go anywhere physically. but seriously, if you dont show up they'll just assume youre guilty

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Ava Kim

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Oh god that makes this even more stressful. Thanks for the warning. I'll make sure to be available for the call no matter what.

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Noah Ali

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Something similar happened to me but it was only 2 months after not 7!! I had to pay back $2,100 because my employer claimed I actually quit instead of being laid off (total lies). I tried fighting it but TWC believed them over me. The whole system favors employers its total BS.

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Ethan Anderson

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thats horrible!! did u have to pay it all back at once or could u do payments? im scared this might happen to me too someday

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Noah Ali

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They let me do a payment plan but its still $175 every month which I can barely afford. And they charged interest!!!

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Chloe Boulanger

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This is definitely an unusual timeline, but TWC does allow employers to appeal within 14 days of receiving a chargeback statement, not just within 14 days of the original determination. It's possible your employer just received their statement showing the charges to their account. I would strongly recommend trying to reach a TWC representative before your hearing to ask specifically what the employer's grounds for appeal are. This will help you prepare your case. You can explain everything exactly as you did here. Trying to reach TWC by phone can be incredibly frustrating though - I spent 3 weeks trying before I discovered Claimyr (claimyr.com). They got me connected to an actual TWC agent in about 20 minutes instead of endless busy signals. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/V-IMvH88P1U?si=kNxmh025COIlIzKh. Completely worth it to get actual answers about your case before the hearing.

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Ava Kim

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Thank you for explaining the timing issue - that makes more sense now. I'll definitely need to talk to TWC before the hearing. I've been trying to call them but keep getting disconnected or busy signals. I'll check out that service because I'm desperate for some answers before this hearing.

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James Martinez

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Just want to mention - the fact that you've already found a new job is actually helpful for your case. TWC is generally more lenient with overpayment cases when the claimant has demonstrated good faith in seeking and obtaining new employment. Make sure to mention your job search efforts and current employment during the hearing.

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Aria Park

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also if you do have to repay (hope not!!!) make sure to ask about a waiver for financial hardship. they dont advertise it but its a real thing! you have to provide bank statements and prove you cant afford to pay it back. worked for my cousin when they tried to make her pay back $3200

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Ava Kim

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That's really helpful to know. Between rent, car payments and student loans, I definitely don't have room in my budget for a huge unexpected expense like this.

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Layla Mendes

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For the hearing itself: 1. Be 100% factual - don't exaggerate or try to make your former employer look bad 2. Emphasize that you followed all TWC instructions and reported accurately 3. Keep your answers brief and directly related to questions asked 4. Have your separation date, claim dates, and benefit amounts written down 5. Mention that you actively sought and found new employment The hearing officer will primarily want to determine if you were terminated for misconduct or if you quit without good cause. Since TWC already ruled in your favor initially, the burden of proof is largely on your former employer to show why that determination should be reversed.

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Ava Kim

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This is really helpful advice. I'm going to write out all these points and prepare exactly what I should say. Would it help to have witnesses? My former coworker knows the manager had issues with several employees.

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Layla Mendes

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Witnesses can be helpful, but you need to notify TWC in advance if you plan to have anyone testify. Check your hearing notice - it should have instructions for adding witnesses. A former coworker's testimony about the manager's pattern of behavior could be relevant, especially if your employer is claiming misconduct.

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Ethan Anderson

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keep us updated!! i hope it works out for you!! the system is so unfair sometimes.

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Ava Kim

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Thank you! I'll definitely post an update after the hearing. Fingers crossed it goes well.

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