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NeonNova

PA UC job search requirements changing when callback date expires - need help for older worker

After 22 years with my manufacturing company, I got laid off in late September with a promised callback date of January 15. Now they just pushed it to March 3 and honestly, I'm doubting they'll bring me back at all. I haven't been actively job hunting because I was counting on returning. I thought having a definite callback date meant I didn't need to do the work search requirements, but now I'm panicking about what happens when my callback date passes. Do I suddenly have to start doing those job applications? Is it still 3 per week? I'm honestly terrified - I'm 58 years old and haven't interviewed anywhere since the 90s. Does anyone know exactly what PA UC requires once a callback date expires? Will my benefits stop if I don't immediately start applying places?

You're right to be concerned about this. PA UC definitely has different rules for those with employer-provided recall dates. While your callback date is active, you're exempt from the weekly work search activities. But once that date passes (or if the employer extends it beyond 12 weeks), you'll need to start completing and documenting your work search activities - which is indeed 3 per week. Make sure to document them in your UC portal when you do your weekly certifications. The good news is that 'work search activities' doesn't necessarily mean just job applications - it can include things like updating your resume, attending job fairs, or networking events too.

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NeonNova

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Thank you for explaining! Do they notify you when this changes or am I supposed to just know? I'm worried I'll miss something and lose my benefits. Also are interviews counted as one of the activities or are those extra?

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This whole callback date system is GARBAGE! I had the same thing happen last year - kept getting promised callbacks that never materialized. Then suddenly I got a letter saying I was in overpayment status because I hadn't been doing work search!!! No warning, no notification, NOTHING from PA UC. Just suddenly owed $4,200 back! Fight this and start your job search NOW, don't trust your employer or UC to look out for you.

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omg thats so scary!!!!! did you have to pay it all back??

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Still fighting it!! The appeal system is a nightmare. I've been waiting 4 months just for a hearing date. Meanwhile they're threatening collections. The whole system is designed to crush people when they're already down.

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i got laid off after 12 yrs and had callback too, got extended twice. pretty sure its 3 work search things each week when callback ends. u can count stuff like putting your resume on indeed as one of them. also going to career center counts. dont worry about ur age i was 55 when i had to start over

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NeonNova

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Thanks for sharing your experience. Did you end up going back to your old job or find something new? I'm worried employers won't want someone my age who's been at one place so long.

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When I was on UC earlier this year, I learned that if you have a definite return to work date within 12 weeks, you don't need to do work search activities. But if that date gets pushed out beyond 12 weeks, or if it expires, you need to start doing your work search immediately. Here's what counts toward your 3 weekly activities: - Applying for positions - Attending job fairs - Creating profiles on job search websites - Taking a civil service test - Job development appointments Make sure to record these in your weekly certifications. And don't forget to answer "Yes" to the question about being able and available for work when filing your weekly claims.

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Quick correction - the 12-week rule isn't always applied the same way. My experience was that as long as the employer continues to provide a definite recall date (even if they keep extending it), UC typically honors that. But you're right that once a recall date passes without extension, work search is required immediately.

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I know the feeling! It's SO SCARY having to look for work again! I'm in my 40s and was terrified. One thing that helped me was going to the PA CareerLink workshops. They're free and they help with resumes and interview practice. That counts as a work search activity too!!! Good luck!!!

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NeonNova

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That's a really good idea, I didn't know about those workshops. Where do you find information about them?

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You can google PA CareerLink and find one near you! They usually have calendars on their websites showing all the workshops. Some are even virtual now!

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I was in a similar situation last year and spent weeks trying to get through to PA UC to ask about the callback date rules. Kept getting busy signals and disconnections until I discovered Claimyr. It's a service that basically holds your place in the UC phone queue and calls you when an agent is available. I was skeptical but tried their video demo (https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2) and it actually worked! Got through to an agent who explained exactly what I needed to do when my callback date passed. Check out claimyr.com if you're having trouble reaching someone - so much better than redialing for hours.

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Does this actually work? I've been trying to reach someone at UC for THREE WEEKS about my claim. I keep getting disconnected or told the queue is full.

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It worked for me! I had been trying for almost two weeks before using it. Got through to someone the same day. You still might wait a while, but at least you don't have to sit there hitting redial constantly.

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The job search requirement is DEFINITELY 3 activities per week once your recall date expires or exceeds the maximum period. I just went through this. Make sure you're tracking EVERYTHING in detail - date, company name, position, contact info, method of application, etc. PA UC has been conducting more audits lately and requesting proof of work search. Missing documentation could result in having to repay benefits. And be careful with those monthly UC surveys they send - always open and respond to them or they can suspend your benefits while "investigating" whether you're still eligible.

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NeonNova

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Thanks for the warning about documentation. What kind of proof should I be saving? Screenshots of applications or something else?

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Screenshots are good. Also save confirmation emails from applications, names of people you talked to, job posting IDs, business cards from job fairs, etc. Some people keep a dedicated notebook with all details. Better to have too much documentation than not enough!

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my theory is these companies keep stringing us along with fake callback dates so they don't have to pay severance or give benefits. my "callback date" got pushed 4 times before they finally admitted the plant was closing permanently. meanwhile the CEO probably got a fat bonus for cutting costs. the whole system is rigged against workers.

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That's unfortunately becoming common. Companies give callback dates to avoid mass layoff requirements under the WARN Act, which would require 60 days notice and possibly severance. Always prepare as if you're not going back, even if they keep extending dates.

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update on my situation: i didnt get called back and had to find new job. took 3 months and lots of rejections. ended up making less $ but its stable. just keep applying everywhere even places u dont think ud want. better to have options. age discrimination is real but some places actually like older workers cuz we show up on time lol

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NeonNova

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Thanks for the follow-up. That's honestly my biggest fear - ending up with something that pays way less after all these years. But you're right, having something is better than nothing.

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I'm going through something similar right now - 15 years at my company and got laid off in December with a callback date that keeps getting pushed. Reading everyone's experiences here is both helpful and terrifying! One thing I learned from calling PA UC (took forever to get through) is that they recommend starting to prepare for job searching even while you still have a callback date, just in case. They told me to at least update my resume and start looking at what's available in my field. That way if the callback date expires, you're not starting from zero. Also, regarding age discrimination - I've heard that focusing on your skills and recent accomplishments rather than listing every job from the past 30 years can help. We're all in this together!

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