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PA UC hearing anxiety: Employer might lie about firing me with no written notice - need advice

Just received notice for my unemployment appeal hearing next week, and I'm getting really anxious. My employer fired me during a one-on-one meeting with no written termination notice or witnesses present. Now I'm worried they'll deny firing me or change their story during the hearing. The separation was clearly NOT my fault, but it's basically my word against theirs at this point. I've been receiving benefits for about 3 weeks, but if they successfully contest this, I could lose everything and even face an overpayment. Has anyone dealt with a similar situation? What kind of evidence should I bring? Can PA UC determine who's telling the truth when there's no documentation of the firing? Any advice from someone who's been through an unemployment hearing would be really appreciated!

Oliver Wagner

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Been exactly where you are back in January. Document EVERYTHING you can remember about the conversation - date, time, exactly what was said, etc. Do you have any emails or texts after the meeting that reference you being fired? What about coworkers who knew you were let go? The hearing officer will look at all circumstantial evidence too. Did you stop going to work immediately after? Did they hire a replacement? Did they give you your final paycheck? All these things point to the truth. Don't stress too much - the hearing officers are pretty good at detecting dishonesty.

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GalaxyGazer

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Thanks for replying! I do have texts with a coworker where I mentioned being fired the same day, and I cleared out my desk that afternoon. They paid me through the end of that week even though I wasn't there. That has to count for something, right? But my boss is really manipulative and I'm just afraid they'll try to say I quit or was fired for misconduct.

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ugh thats so stressful!! my boss tried pulling some bs like that too. they hate paying unemployment

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GalaxyGazer

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I know!! It's so frustrating. Did your employer actually lie during your hearing? What happened in your case?

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Javier Mendoza

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I've represented clients at UC hearings for years. Here's what you need to know: PA UC hearings operate under what's called a "preponderance of evidence" standard, which simply means "more likely than not" (51%). The referee is trained to assess credibility when testimonies conflict. That text to your coworker on the same day is actually quite valuable - contemporaneous evidence carries significant weight. Also, employers bear the burden of proof in discharge cases. They must establish misconduct, not just any reason for termination. During the hearing: 1. Speak clearly and directly 2. Answer only what is asked 3. Never interrupt 4. Have a timeline written in front of you 5. If asked why you were terminated, simply state what you were told You're better positioned than you think.

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GalaxyGazer

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Wow, this is incredibly helpful information! I didn't realize the burden of proof is on them. That makes me feel a bit better. I'll definitely prepare a timeline and follow your advice about speaking clearly and not interrupting. Would it be helpful to submit the text exchange with my coworker before the hearing, or should I just mention it during my testimony?

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Emma Thompson

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PA UC system is rigged to favor employers! I had three witnesses at my hearing and they still sided with my employer who straight-up LIED about everything! Don't get your hopes up!!! 😠

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While I understand your frustration, that hasn't been my experience with the PA UC appeal system. Most referees genuinely try to apply the law fairly. The burden of proof does rest with the employer in discharge cases, and they must establish willful misconduct. I'm sorry you had a negative experience, but it's important not to discourage others who may have valid cases.

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Malik Davis

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Do you have proof they paid you after you stopped showing up? Like a paystub showing dates? That's going to be one of your stronger pieces of evidence since they wouldn't pay someone who quit or abandoned their job. Also, save any badge, email access, parking pass deactivation info - all that proves they considered you terminated. And remember to call in early for your phone hearing! I missed mine because I thought they'd call exactly at the scheduled time, but they actually called 10 mins early and I missed my chance. Had to request a whole new hearing which took another 6 weeks.

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GalaxyGazer

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Yes! I have the direct deposit from that last paycheck that came after I was already gone. Great idea about the badge and email deactivation - I'll see if I can get the exact date my company email stopped working. Thanks for the tip about calling in early. My hearing letter says I need to call in 15 minutes before the scheduled time, so I'll definitely do that. Sorry you had to wait 6 more weeks - that must have been awful!

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StarStrider

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I went through something similar in 2025 with my hearing. What you need to bring: - A written timeline of events (dates are super important) - Any emails or texts that mention you being fired, even if just to friends/family from that day - Your last paystub - Any performance reviews (if they were good, this helps counter misconduct claims) - Names of any coworkers who knew you were fired (the judge can subpoena them if needed) During my hearing, my employer tried claiming I was fired for excessive tardiness but couldn't produce any written warnings. The judge called them out on this lack of documentation and ruled in my favor. PA requires employers to show they gave you warnings and chances to improve before firing for most misconduct reasons. Stay calm, stick to facts, and you'll be ok. The judges really do try to be fair.

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GalaxyGazer

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This is such practical advice - thank you! I'm going to put together that timeline tonight while everything is still fresh in my mind. I actually have several good performance reviews from the past year, so I'll definitely bring those. There were never any written warnings about my performance, so hopefully that helps my case. It's reassuring to hear the judge called out your employer for lack of documentation. That's exactly what I'm hoping will happen in my case.

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Oliver Wagner

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One more thing - be prepared for your employer to have an HR person or even a lawyer representing them. Don't let this intimidate you. The referee runs the hearing and will make sure you get your chance to speak. Just answer questions simply and truthfully. Don't get emotional or start arguing directly with your former employer. That always looks bad.

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GalaxyGazer

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Oh gosh, I hadn't thought about them having a lawyer. That does make me nervous. But you're right - I need to stay calm and just focus on answering the questions clearly. I tend to ramble when I'm nervous, so I'll practice giving concise answers beforehand.

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make sure u dress nice for the video hearing! my friend wore a hoodie and felt like the judge was judging him lol

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GalaxyGazer

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Good point! Mine is actually a phone hearing, but I'll still dress nicely - I think it helps me feel more professional and confident even if they can't see me.

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After your hearing, regardless of the outcome, make sure you continue filing your weekly claims. Many claimants stop filing during the appeal process, which is a mistake. If you win, you'll only be paid for weeks you actually filed claims.

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GalaxyGazer

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Thank you for this important reminder! I'll definitely keep filing my weekly claims. Do I need to keep meeting the work search requirements while waiting for the appeal decision?

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Yes, absolutely continue meeting all work search requirements and documenting them carefully. Maintain at least 3 work search activities per week as required by PA UC. The appeal decision has no effect on these ongoing requirements.

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