Who pays for unemployment benefits in NYS - employer vs state costs breakdown?
I'm trying to understand how unemployment insurance works financially in New York. My company just laid off several people and my manager mentioned something about unemployment costs being borne by employers mostly. Is this true? I thought the state paid for unemployment benefits through taxes. Can someone explain who actually pays for UI benefits and how the cost of unemployment is borne by which entity? I'm worried about applying for benefits if it somehow hurts my former employer financially.
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Javier Torres
In New York, unemployment insurance is funded primarily through employer payroll taxes, not employee contributions. Employers pay into the state unemployment insurance fund based on their payroll and experience rating. The NYS Department of Labor collects these taxes quarterly from employers. So yes, the cost of unemployment is borne by employers through their UI tax contributions, but it's not a direct cost when you file - they've already been paying into the system.
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Natasha Volkova
•Thanks! So I don't need to worry about filing for benefits then? The money is already in the system from their past tax payments?
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Emma Davis
Your former employer's UI tax rate can go up if they have a lot of claims filed against them over time. It's called an experience rating system. But don't let that stop you from filing - you earned those benefits and your employer knew this was part of the cost of doing business when they hired you.
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Malik Johnson
•Exactly this. Companies budget for unemployment costs as part of their labor expenses. File your claim without guilt.
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Isabella Ferreira
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Ravi Sharma
•wait is that a paid service? seems like we shouldn't have to pay extra just to talk to the department we need help from
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NebulaNomad
just file already!! your company laid you off they knew what they were doing. unemployment system exists for a reason and employers pay for it whether people use it or not
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Amara Okafor
To add some specifics to what others have said - in NY, employers pay UI taxes on wages up to $12,300 per employee (as of 2024). The tax rate varies from 0.6% to 9.9% depending on the employer's claims history. New employers start at around 4.1%. The state also collects a small additional assessment. So yes, your former employer has been paying into this system all along - it's designed exactly for situations like layoffs. Don't feel guilty about using benefits you and your employer have already paid for through the system.
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Oliver Schulz
•This is really helpful context about the actual tax rates and wage base! I had no idea employers were paying up to 9.9% in some cases. That makes me feel much better about filing - it sounds like this is just part of how the system is designed to work. Thank you for breaking down the numbers!
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Logan Chiang
@Natasha Volkova - I was in a similar situation last year and had the same concerns about "hurting" my former employer. What helped me understand it better is thinking of unemployment insurance like any other insurance - you don't feel guilty about using health insurance when you get sick, right? Your employer has been paying these premiums (UI taxes) specifically so that this safety net exists for situations like layoffs. The system is designed to support workers during transitions, and employers factor these costs into their business planning. You earned this benefit through your work, so please don't let worry about your former employer's finances prevent you from getting the support you need while job searching.
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Noah Lee
•@Logan Chiang That s'such a perfect analogy with health insurance! I never thought of it that way before. You re'absolutely right - employers budget for these costs as part of running their business, just like they budget for health insurance premiums or workers comp. It really does take the guilt out of it when you frame it as something that s'already been paid for and is there specifically for this purpose. Thanks for that perspective!
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Emma Anderson
I work in HR and can confirm what others have said - unemployment insurance is 100% employer-funded in NY. We pay quarterly taxes to the state based on our payroll, and these rates are adjusted annually based on our "experience rating" (how many former employees have filed claims). The important thing to understand is that we budget for these costs regardless of whether anyone actually files claims or not. The money is already set aside in the state fund. When you file, you're not taking money directly from your former employer's pocket - you're accessing benefits from a fund they've already contributed to. Please don't let concern for your employer prevent you from claiming benefits you're entitled to. That's exactly what the system is designed for!
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Evelyn Kim
•@Emma Anderson This is so reassuring to hear from someone who actually handles this on the employer side! I think a lot of us don t'realize that companies are already budgeting for these costs whether we use the benefits or not. It makes perfect sense that the money is already set aside in the state fund rather than coming directly out of the company s'current budget when someone files. Thank you for taking the time to explain this from the HR perspective - it really helps remove that worry about burdening "former" employers when we re'just accessing something that s'already been paid for.
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LilMama23
As someone who recently went through this exact situation, I can add that the NYS DOL website has a really helpful FAQ section that breaks down the funding structure in plain language. What really helped me understand it was learning that unemployment insurance operates on a "mutualization" principle - all employers in the state contribute to a shared pool that protects all workers, regardless of which specific company laid them off. Your former employer has been paying into this system for years, not just for you but for all their employees past and present. The benefits you receive come from this collective fund, not from your specific employer's account. I filed my claim about 6 months ago and it was actually a much smoother process than I expected once I got over the same guilt you're feeling. Don't let that stop you - this is literally what the system exists for!
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Ahooker-Equator
•@LilMama23 Thank you so much for explaining the "mutualization" principle - that really clicks for me! I hadn't thought about it as a shared pool that all employers contribute to rather than individual company accounts. That makes it feel much less personal and more like the legitimate social safety net it's designed to be. It's really helpful to hear from someone who went through the same guilt and came out the other side. I'm definitely going to check out that FAQ section on the NYS DOL website too. Knowing that you found the process smoother than expected gives me confidence to move forward with filing. Thanks for sharing your experience!
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Pedro Sawyer
I went through this same worry when I was laid off from my job in Rochester last year. What really helped me was understanding that unemployment insurance is essentially a mandatory insurance program that ALL employers must participate in - it's not optional for them. They've been paying these premiums (UI taxes) every quarter since they started their business, whether anyone files claims or not. Think of it this way - if your house burned down, you wouldn't hesitate to file an insurance claim because you've been paying premiums, right? Same principle here. Your employer has been paying UI "premiums" specifically so this safety net exists for workers during layoffs, job loss, etc. The guilt you're feeling is totally understandable but misplaced - using unemployment benefits is exactly what your employer's tax payments were intended to cover. File your claim and focus on your job search. This is what the system is for!
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Mateo Sanchez
•@Pedro Sawyer That house insurance analogy really drives it home! I think part of my guilt was imagining that filing somehow creates an immediate financial burden for my former employer, but you re'right - they ve'already been paying into this system regardless. It s'like they ve'been paying insurance premiums all along and now the coverage is there when it s'needed. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to explain this from different angles - as someone new to unemployment, it s'been incredibly helpful to understand how the funding actually works behind the scenes. I m'going to file my claim today!
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Malik Jackson
I'm a claims examiner with the NYS Department of Labor and wanted to clear up any remaining confusion. The unemployment insurance system in NY is indeed 100% employer-funded through payroll taxes. When you file a claim, the benefits come from the State Insurance Fund that all employers have been contributing to - your specific employer doesn't write a check when you get benefits. However, their future tax rate CAN be affected by their "experience rating" which considers claims filed by their former employees over a multi-year period. But here's the key thing - even if your claim affects their rate slightly, this is literally how the system is designed to work. Employers know this when they hire employees. You have every legal and moral right to file for benefits you've earned. Don't let concern about your former employer prevent you from accessing support you're entitled to during your job search. That's exactly what this safety net exists for!
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Simon White
•@Malik Jackson Thank you so much for weighing in as an actual claims examiner! It s'incredibly reassuring to get confirmation directly from someone who works within the system. Your explanation about the State Insurance Fund versus individual employer accounts really clarifies things - I was definitely picturing my former employer having to cut a check every time I received benefits, which made me feel terrible. Knowing that it comes from the collective fund that all employers contribute to makes this feel so much more legitimate. I also appreciate you acknowledging that while claims can affect experience ratings, that s'simply how the system is supposed to function. It sounds like employers go into this knowing it s'part of the cost of doing business. This has been such an educational thread - I m'filing my claim today with a clear conscience. Thank you to everyone who took the time to explain this!
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Avery Flores
I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread - as someone who was recently laid off and dealing with the same concerns as Natasha, this has been incredibly educational! The various perspectives from HR professionals, claims examiners, and people who've been through this process really paint a complete picture of how unemployment insurance actually works. I had no idea about the experience rating system or the State Insurance Fund structure. What really resonates with me is the insurance analogy - we don't feel guilty about using car insurance after an accident, so why should we feel guilty about using unemployment insurance after a layoff? Both are situations we pay into specifically to have protection when we need it. For anyone else reading this who might be on the fence about filing - it sounds like the system truly is designed for exactly these situations and employers are already budgeting for these costs as part of their normal business operations.
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Maggie Martinez
•@Avery Flores I completely agree! This thread has been such an eye-opener for me too. I came in with the same worries about hurting "my" former employer, but now I understand that unemployment insurance is really just a well-designed social safety net that employers participate in as part of their normal business costs. The car insurance comparison is perfect - nobody thinks twice about filing a claim after an accident because that s'literally what you ve'been paying premiums for. It s'the same principle here. I m'so grateful for everyone who shared their expertise, especially the HR folks and the actual claims examiner who explained how the system really works behind the scenes. It s'amazing how much guilt and anxiety can be eliminated just by understanding the actual mechanics of how something operates!
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Aisha Abdullah
I'm new to the community and just stumbled across this thread while researching unemployment benefits myself. This discussion has been incredibly helpful! I was laid off last month and have been hesitating to file because I genuinely liked my former manager and didn't want to cause financial problems for the company. Reading all these explanations about how the system actually works - especially the insurance analogies and learning about the State Insurance Fund - has really opened my eyes. It's clear that unemployment insurance is set up as a legitimate business expense that employers plan for, not an unexpected burden. The perspective from the HR professional and claims examiner particularly helped me understand that this is just how the system is supposed to function. I'm definitely going to file my claim this week. Thank you to everyone who contributed - this thread should be required reading for anyone dealing with unemployment anxiety!
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Ezra Collins
•@Aisha Abdullah Welcome to the community! I m'so glad you found this thread helpful - it really has been an amazing resource. I think so many of us go through that same hesitation because we care about our former employers and don t'fully understand how the system works. What struck me most from all the explanations here is that unemployment insurance isn t'some burden we re'placing on companies - it s'literally a safety net they ve'been paying into specifically for situations like layoffs. The fact that you liked your former manager actually shows what a thoughtful person you are, but as everyone here has explained so well, filing your claim is just using a benefit that s'already been paid for through the system. Your manager would probably tell you the same thing! Best of luck with your claim and job search.
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Yara Khalil
I'm reading through this thread as someone who's currently unemployed and was also hesitating to file for the same reasons everyone has mentioned. The explanations here have been incredibly helpful - especially learning that there's actually a State Insurance Fund rather than money coming directly from individual employers. What really sealed it for me was the claims examiner confirming that this is literally how the system is designed to work and that employers know this when they hire people. I think we put so much guilt on ourselves because we don't understand the mechanics behind these programs. It's like feeling bad about using public roads because they're taxpayer-funded - when actually that's exactly what they're there for! Thanks to everyone who took the time to explain this so thoroughly. This thread has genuinely changed my perspective and I'll be filing my claim tomorrow.
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