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NYS Labor Commissioner withdrawing my unemployment determination for further fact-finding - what happens next?

Just got a letter saying the Commissioner of Labor is withdrawing my determination(s) and will do more fact-finding. The exact wording states "The Commissioner of Labor is withdrawing the determination(s) in the above case. The Commissioner will conduct further fact-finding." The letter mentions that if a new determination is issued, it will be sent to me. It also says if I disagree with any new determination, I must make a new request for a hearing. For questions about the status of any hearing requested on the withdrawn determination(s), they told me to call the Telephone Claims Center at 1-888-209-8124. I've been trying this number repeatedly but haven't had any luck getting through to anyone. The form appears to be from the Unemployment Insurance Division with a form number of AB 664.1 (5/22). Anyone else dealt with this situation before? Not sure what this means for my unemployment benefits or how long this new investigation will take. I'm getting concerned about my payments potentially being interrupted while they do this additional fact-finding. Has anyone experienced this "withdrawal of determination" process and know approximately how long I should expect to wait?

Mei Liu

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Yeahhh this happened to me last month. They basically start the whole process over and do a new investigation. Took about 3 weeks for them to send me a new determination. Keep certifying every week tho!

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3 weeks?! 😫 did you get paid during that time or did everything stop?

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Mei Liu

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everything was on pause till the new determination came out. but i got backpay for those weeks once it was approved

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Listen up - here's what you need to know about determination withdrawals: This usually happens when they need more info or found something that needs investigating. Key things to do: - Keep certifying weekly no matter what - Document everything - Save all letters and correspondence - Check your online account daily - If you need to talk to someone, use claimyr.com - saved me tons of time Typically takes 2-6 weeks for new determination. They'll backpay if approved. Don't panic - its pretty common these days with all the fraud prevention stuff their doing.

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thank you! this is super helpful 🙏

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bruh the system is such a mess rn. been dealing with them since january smh

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Check ur spam folder daily! Sometimes they send important emails there and u only have like 48hrs to respond

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fr fr this happened to me and i almost missed a deadline 😱

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make sure u save that letter! ull probably need it later knowing how they operate 🙄

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I went through this exact same thing about 6 months ago. The withdrawal basically means they're hitting the reset button on your case - could be because of conflicting info, new evidence, or just routine quality control. During my withdrawal period (took about 4 weeks), I kept certifying every week like normal even though payments were suspended. Once they issued the new determination in my favor, I got all the backpay for those weeks I was waiting. Pro tip: start gathering any documentation you think might be relevant now - pay stubs, employment records, emails, etc. When they do their fact-finding, having everything organized can speed things up. And yeah, definitely keep checking your online account and email daily for any requests for info. The waiting sucks but it's not necessarily a bad sign - sometimes they just need to dot their i's and cross their t's. Hang in there! 💪

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I'm going through something similar right now - got my withdrawal letter about 10 days ago and still waiting. The uncertainty is definitely stressful! 😰 One thing I learned from calling around is that they're required to make a determination within 30 days of the withdrawal, so there is a timeline they have to follow. Also found out that if you had any overpayment issues or employer disputes in your file, that can trigger these withdrawals even months later. Has anyone had experience with how this affects your benefit year? Like if they take 4+ weeks to resolve this, does that eat into your total weeks of eligibility or do they extend it? Trying to plan ahead here... Thanks for posting this @AstroAdventurer - it's weirdly comforting to know others are dealing with the same thing! 🤝

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@Madeline Blaze Hey! Just wanted to chime in as someone new to all this - your question about the benefit year is really smart thinking ahead! I m'also curious about this. From what I ve'been reading, it seems like the withdrawal process can be pretty nerve-wracking but at least there s'that 30-day rule you mentioned. That gives me some hope that there s'actually a deadline they have to stick to. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here - makes me feel less alone in navigating this whole mess! 😅

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Just want to add that I went through this withdrawal process about 2 months ago and it was honestly one of the most stressful experiences! The not knowing and waiting for payments was rough. Mine took exactly 21 days from withdrawal to new determination. A few things I wish I had known: - They sometimes send requests for additional info through regular mail (not just email), so check your mailbox daily - If you have a lawyer or someone who helped with your original claim, give them a heads up about the withdrawal - they might have insights - The online portal sometimes shows weird statuses during this time, don't panic if it says confusing things Also echoing what others said about claimyr - totally worth the $20 if you need to actually speak with someone. The regular phone lines are basically impossible to get through on your own. Stay strong everyone dealing with this! The system is definitely not user-friendly but most of these withdrawals do get resolved in the claimant's favor from what I've seen. Just document everything and respond quickly to any requests they send. 🤞

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@Nia Davis This is so helpful, thank you for sharing! 21 days doesn t'sound too bad compared to some of the other timelines people have mentioned. I m'definitely going to be more diligent about checking my physical mailbox - I ve'been so focused on email and the online portal that I didn t'even think about regular mail. The tip about the online portal showing weird statuses is good to know too, I ll'try not to read too much into whatever confusing messages pop up there. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience! 🙏

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Hey everyone! Just wanted to say thank you so much for all the detailed responses - this thread has been incredibly helpful and reassuring! 🙏 I'm feeling a lot less panicked now knowing that this withdrawal process is actually pretty common and that most people here got favorable outcomes with backpay. The 30-day timeline rule @Madeline Blaze mentioned is especially comforting to know there's actually a deadline they have to meet. I've started implementing everyone's advice: - Continuing to certify weekly ✅ - Checking both email AND physical mailbox daily now (thanks @Nia Davis!) - Started organizing all my employment docs just in case - Bookmarked claimyr.com for if I need to actually talk to someone @MoonlightSonata your experience sounds almost identical to mine and knowing you got through it successfully in 4 weeks with full backpay gives me so much hope! @Fatima Al-Hashimi your breakdown of what to expect was super helpful too - I screenshot it for reference! Will definitely update this thread once I hear back from them. Fingers crossed it's good news! Thanks again everyone for sharing your experiences and making this whole stressful process feel less isolating. This community is amazing! 💪✨

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@Victoria Scott So glad this thread has been helpful for you! I m'also pretty new to dealing with unemployment stuff and it s'been such a relief to read everyone s'experiences here. Your checklist approach is really smart - I m'definitely going to follow your lead on organizing all the employment docs ahead of time. The whole system seems so overwhelming when you re'dealing with it alone, but having this community share their knowledge makes it feel way more manageable. Wishing you the best with your case and hope you get that favorable determination soon! 🤞 Please do update us when you hear back - I m'sure there are others following along who would benefit from knowing how it turns out!

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