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Jackson Carter

NYS Department of Labor unemployment disqualification for failing drug test - need advice

My employer terminated me last week after I failed a random drug test at work. I tested positive for marijuana which I use for chronic pain (I don't have a medical card though). Now I'm trying to file for unemployment benefits but I'm worried the NYS Department of Labor will deny my claim because of the drug test failure. Does anyone know if failing a drug test automatically disqualifies you from getting UI benefits? I really need these benefits to pay my rent while I look for another job. The termination paperwork says 'violation of company drug policy' as the reason.

Kolton Murphy

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In New York, failing a drug test can potentially disqualify you from unemployment benefits, but it's not always automatic. The NYS Department of Labor will look at whether your actions constituted 'misconduct' under their guidelines. If your employer can prove you violated a clearly stated drug policy that you were aware of, that could be considered misconduct. However, you still have the right to appeal any disqualification decision.

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Thanks for the info. I did sign the employee handbook acknowledging the drug policy when I started. Do you think I should still file for benefits or wait?

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Evelyn Rivera

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File your claim anyway! Let the NYS Department of Labor make the determination. Sometimes employers don't respond to the separation questionnaire properly or don't provide enough documentation to prove misconduct. The worst that can happen is they deny it and you appeal. But if you don't file at all, you definitely won't get anything.

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Julia Hall

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This is good advice. I was denied initially for a similar situation but won on appeal because my employer couldn't prove I was actually impaired at work, just that I tested positive.

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Arjun Patel

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ugh the whole system is so messed up... they'll deny you for anything these days. i got denied because they said i was 'insubordinate' when really my boss was just being unreasonable. took forever to get through on the phone to even explain my side

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Tony Brooks

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Wait, so if I fail a drug test I automatically can't get unemployment? That doesn't seem fair, especially for marijuana since it stays in your system so long. What if you smoked on the weekend but weren't high at work?

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Kolton Murphy

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It's not automatic - the NYS Department of Labor has to determine if it was misconduct. The timing of when you used substances versus when you were tested can be relevant to your case, especially if you can show you weren't impaired during work hours.

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File immediately and be honest about everything on your application. The NYS Department of Labor will contact your employer for their side of the story. If they rule it as misconduct, you'll get a determination letter explaining the decision and your appeal rights. The appeal process gives you a chance to present your case to a hearing officer.

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Ava Rodriguez

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I went through something similar last year when I was terminated for a failed drug test. The key thing to understand is that the NYS Department of Labor will investigate whether your termination was due to "misconduct" - and this isn't always cut and dry with drug tests. In my case, I was initially denied benefits, but I appealed and won because I was able to show that while I violated company policy, I wasn't actually impaired at work and my job performance had been satisfactory. My advice: file your claim right away, be completely honest on your application, and if you get denied, don't give up - use the appeal process. Also, start documenting everything now - your work history, performance reviews, the circumstances of the test, etc. You might also want to consult with an employment attorney if you can afford it, as they often know the ins and outs of these cases better than anyone.

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This is really helpful advice, especially about documenting everything. @Jackson Carter - you should definitely gather any performance reviews or commendations you received while working there. Also, if you can get statements from coworkers about your job performance or that you never appeared impaired at work, that could strengthen your case during the appeal process if needed. The fact that you re'using marijuana for chronic pain might also be relevant - even without a medical card, showing you had a legitimate reason for use could help your case.

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Hannah Flores

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I'm going through something similar right now, so I feel for you. One thing I learned is that the NYS Department of Labor looks at each case individually - it's not just black and white. Since you mentioned using marijuana for chronic pain, you might want to consider getting medical documentation about your condition, even if you don't have an official medical marijuana card. Sometimes having a doctor's note explaining your medical need can help during the appeals process if your initial claim gets denied. Also, keep in mind that the burden is on your employer to prove misconduct occurred - they need to show you were aware of the policy AND that your violation was willful. Don't let this discourage you from filing - you have nothing to lose by applying and everything to gain if approved.

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That's really solid advice about getting medical documentation. @Jackson Carter - even if you don t'have an official medical marijuana card, having a doctor document your chronic pain condition could make a big difference if you need to appeal. I d'also suggest keeping records of any medical treatments or prescriptions you ve'had for the pain condition. The more you can show that your marijuana use was for legitimate medical reasons rather than recreational, the stronger your position might be. And Hannah is absolutely right - your employer has to prove willful misconduct, not just policy violation. File that claim ASAP and don t'let them intimidate you out of benefits you might be entitled to.

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Miguel Harvey

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I actually work as a paralegal at an employment law firm and see these cases regularly. Here's what I can tell you about NYS unemployment and drug test failures: The Department of Labor doesn't automatically disqualify everyone who fails a drug test - they have to prove it was "misconduct connected with work." This means they look at factors like whether you were clearly informed of the policy, whether you signed acknowledgment, and importantly - whether your substance use actually impacted your job performance. The fact that you're using marijuana for chronic pain could be significant, especially if you can get medical documentation. I've seen cases where people won appeals even after failed drug tests because the employer couldn't prove the person was impaired at work or that their job performance suffered. My strong recommendation: file immediately (don't wait - there are time limits), be completely honest on your application, and if denied, absolutely use the appeal process. Many people give up after the initial denial, but the appeals hearing is where you can really present your full case to an administrative law judge.

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Ryder Greene

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This is incredibly valuable insight from someone who actually works in employment law! @Jackson Carter - Miguel s'advice about the appeals process being crucial is spot on. I d'add that when you file your initial claim, make sure to mention your chronic pain condition and that your marijuana use was medicinal in nature, even in the initial application. This creates a record from the start. Also, if you do get denied initially, don t'let the formal language of the determination letter discourage you - these initial decisions are often overturned on appeal when people can present their full story to a judge. The fact that you re'asking these questions and being proactive shows you re'taking this seriously, which will work in your favor.

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This is excellent legal insight! @Miguel Harvey - thank you for sharing your professional perspective. One additional point for @Jackson Carter: when you file your claim, make sure to keep detailed records of all your communications with the NYS Department of Labor, including dates, times, and what was discussed. If your case does go to appeal, having a clear timeline of everything that happened can be really helpful. Also, if you have any documentation about your work performance prior to the drug test performance (reviews, commendations, etc. ,)gather those now while they re'fresh. The appeals process can take time, but as Miguel mentioned, that s'often where the real decisions get made. Don t'get discouraged if you get an initial denial - it sounds like you may have a stronger case than you think, especially with the medical aspect of your marijuana use.

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Sadie Benitez

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I'm new to this community but wanted to share my experience since I went through something very similar recently. I was terminated for a failed drug test (also marijuana) and was terrified about filing for unemployment. After reading through all these responses, I'm really glad I found this thread because the advice here is spot-on. I did file my claim and was initially denied, but I appealed and actually won my case. The key things that helped me were: 1) I was completely honest on my application about the reason for termination, 2) I gathered all my performance reviews which showed I was a good employee, and 3) I got a letter from my doctor about my medical condition that I was self-medicating for. During the appeal hearing, the judge seemed more interested in whether I was actually impaired at work (which I wasn't) rather than just the positive test result. It took about 3 months total to get through the appeal process, but I ended up getting all my back benefits. Don't give up - the system isn't perfect but it's not automatically stacked against you either. File that claim and fight for what you're entitled to!

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Freya Nielsen

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Wow, thank you so much for sharing your actual experience @Sadie Benitez! This gives me a lot of hope. I was really scared that failing the drug test would automatically disqualify me, but hearing that you went through the same thing and actually won on appeal is really encouraging. I especially appreciate you breaking down the specific steps that helped - being honest on the application, gathering performance reviews, and getting medical documentation. I do have some old performance reviews that were positive, and I think I can get a letter from my doctor about my chronic pain condition. The 3-month timeline is good to know too - I was wondering how long this whole process might take. Your story really helps me feel like I should definitely file and not just give up before I even try. Thank you for taking the time to share this!

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Ethan Wilson

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I'm sorry you're going through this situation - it's really stressful when you lose your job and aren't sure about benefits. Based on what everyone has shared here, it sounds like you definitely should file your claim right away. The fact that you're using marijuana for chronic pain, even without an official medical card, could actually work in your favor during an appeal if needed. I'd recommend gathering any documentation you have about your pain condition and your work performance before the drug test. Also, when you file your claim, be completely upfront about the drug test failure and the reason for your marijuana use. The NYS Department of Labor has to prove misconduct, not just policy violation, so don't assume you're automatically disqualified. Even if you get denied initially, the appeal process gives you a real chance to present your full story. You have nothing to lose by filing and potentially everything to gain!

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I completely agree with everything you've said @Ethan Wilson! @Jackson Carter - I just wanted to add one more thing that might help you feel more confident about filing. From reading all these responses, it s'clear that the NYS Department of Labor really does look at each case individually, and having a medical reason for marijuana use even (without an official card can) make a significant difference. I d'also suggest that when you re'gathering your documentation, try to get anything that shows you were never impaired at work - maybe attendance records showing you were always on time, or any workplace incidents reports or (lack thereof that) demonstrate you were functioning normally. The more you can paint a picture of someone who was managing their chronic pain responsibly while still being a reliable employee, the stronger your case becomes. Don t'let fear stop you from filing - you deserve to have your case heard fairly!

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